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Posted Thu Jun 8, 2006, 1:48pm
Subject: Inverted AeroPress method - instructions, pictures, video?
 

I'm quite curious about the "inverted" method of pressing with the Aero.  Visual aids for the technique would be extremely helpful.  Anyone have a pointer?
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Posted Fri Jun 9, 2006, 4:59pm
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Here is a photoset I made for you and anyone else who is interested.

Inverted Aeropress method

Cheers, Emil
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Posted Fri Jun 9, 2006, 7:19pm
Subject: Re: Inverted AeroPress method - instructions, pictures, video?
 

Ah, now that makes sense. Except you'd have to measure or transfer the water into another vessel, thus further lowering the temp. But I'll try it now and see if it is easier to press through.

 
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Posted Sun Jun 11, 2006, 7:46pm
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[photo series]

Pretty good. You did a fine job of only spilling one drop, BTW. Try two or three "press and tip over cup" instances inverted with only one drop, and you'll be declared ruler of this method.  ;-)

Remember, folks, it doesn't do much good with the paper filter.
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Posted Mon Jun 12, 2006, 10:04am
Subject: Re: Inverted AeroPress method - instructions, pictures, video?
 

Well! . . . I never!

The drop happened because of the photo shoot . . . how embarrasing, but I figured I would just leave it in there for imperfections sakes.

I would sure like to get my hands on a metal disk filter somehow. Your felt filter idea is good but I suspect they would be less re-usable than paper. Has anyone butchered a PF basket to make an Aero filter yet?

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Posted Mon Jun 12, 2006, 9:25pm
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Nominal 5 micron polyester felt will eliminate fines but pass all oils, and I used the same cutout of it for over three weeks. It didn't get rancid at all. I finally discarded it just out of incredulity.

You're not likely to find anything like that anywhere else. I believe only felts will do that, short of far more expensive materials. Swiss Gold? Not a chance. Not even close. Might as well just do a French press, the fines'll be the same.

Alan, if you're reading, I'd urge trying a 10 micron metal filter -- but space the holes VERY close together. I suppose that means it'd be subject to tearing, though. Dangitall.

Do what Swiss Gold does, and make one side tapered so the fines don't get stuck on the other side.
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Posted Tue Jun 13, 2006, 2:33am
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Rasqual,
 I'm using a Swiss Gold filter cut to size and I can assure you, using the inverted brew method I get no fines whatsoever grinding at the same setting I use for my espresso machine....

Steven.
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Posted Tue Jun 13, 2006, 4:03am
Subject: Re: Inverted AeroPress method - instructions, pictures, video?
 

Hi,

I do have one question about the inverted method. If I smell the rubber plunger, I can definitely detect an odor even after cleaning. In normal use of the AeroPress, this doesn't make any difference, because the rubber doesn't contact the brew until the end when it's compressing the puck. In the inverted method, though, it's acting as the bottom of the chamber so it's in contact with the brew throughout the extraction. How do you keep this from being a problem?

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Posted Wed Jun 14, 2006, 7:34pm
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scook94 Said:

I'm using a Swiss Gold filter cut to size and I can assure you, using the inverted brew method I get no fines whatsoever grinding at the same setting I use for my espresso machine....

Posted June 13, 2006 link

We seem to be majorly in "YMMV" territory. I can't imagine how a Swiss Gold filter would NOT pass fines (the holes are much bigger than a Clover's, and even a Clover passes fines). Which model filter did you cut down? I'll buy one ASAP and try it too. IMO, it would be great if this is the case for varying levels of grind.

DavidMLewis Said:

I do have one question about the inverted method. If I smell the rubber plunger, I can definitely detect an odor even after cleaning. In normal use of the AeroPress, this doesn't make any difference, because the rubber doesn't contact the brew until the end when it's compressing the puck. In the inverted method, though, it's acting as the bottom of the chamber so it's in contact with the brew throughout the extraction. How do you keep this from being a problem?

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I've never had any trace of rubber odor or flavor in the Aeropress. Truly, if you're smelling rubber or getting its flavor in your beverage, I'd return it.

Your concern about contact with the rubber is quite legitimate, though. Perhaps you have an older Aero, and the rubber isn't aging as well as one would hope? I've asked Alan "why not silicone," and his quite sane answer was that they had to find a material with ideal tack. Personally, I'd prefer silicone. To tell you the truth, personally I'd like to see a premium Aeropress made entirely of glass, with a silicone o-ring instead of the large rubber head on the plunger. Not sure that'd work well without some kind of lubricant, which of course is impossible. But it'd sure be a darned pretty piece of equipment.

You should see the latest mod I concocted for the Aero. Don't know if I'll have an elegant instance, quite, but I reckon I'll post a picture in a week or two, when it's ready. It'll make the inverted method easier to use.
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Posted Wed Jun 14, 2006, 11:06pm
Subject: Re: Inverted AeroPress method - instructions, pictures, video?
 

I just wanted to say to Emil - cool photo series! And I can't believe I didn't think of using the aeropress this way before...

I was always fighting to maintain a steep, pulling up on the plunger slightly to create neutral or slightly negative pressure. This is SO much easier.

Clover simulator, here I come...

Mark

 
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