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mguzzi
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Posted Fri Apr 11, 2014, 4:42pm
Subject: Brew method best suited to ceramic burr Hario or Porlex hand grinder
 

Until recently I've been a occasional coffee drinker so I just go to a good shop, and let them do the hard work! I've been drinking a cup a day and I would like to make my own with a minimal amount of money and fuss, while maintaining the best quality that I can.

From my reading here, grinders seem to be large part of the equation. Hand mills are often recommend, but I've noticed that other than the more expensive lido etc, they don't work well on coarse grinds, that seem to be recommend for some brewing techniques(CCD?)

Given that I'll buy a ceramic burr hand grinder, what simple brewing technique would work best within the limitations of the grinder(Either Porlex and Hario)?
Bonus points for a method that would allow the brewing of two cups at time on occasion.

Options considered so far:
Clever Coffee Dripper
Aeropress
Bonmac dripper
Bee house dripper

Thanks!
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Posted Fri Apr 11, 2014, 5:13pm
Subject: Re: Brew method best suited to ceramic burr Hario or Porlex hand grinder
 

first off, welcome to CG!

Now, there's a simple mod for the Hario Skerton available from Orphan Espresso for about $15 to make it perform better for press pot (coarse)...if that's what you want.

I think one of the things you really need to decide is what brew method satisfies your taste buds and then look for the right gear for you to make that work, rather than decide on a grinder and then figure out how to best use it.

Once we know what you want to achieve, it'll be easier for us to help you optimize that.  Make sense to you?

 
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Posted Fri Apr 11, 2014, 6:16pm
Subject: Re: Brew method best suited to ceramic burr Hario or Porlex hand grinder
 

Is if forgivable to say that I have no idea what I like best? At this point I know that I've enjoyed a range of different flavours. That is partly why I'm trying to keep it simple at the beginning, a chance to just try out different types of coffee, before a branch out in types of brewing!

Press pots are low on my list as I hate cleaning out the grounds, paper filters are a plus in the morning routine!

Thank you for the welcome!
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Posted Fri Apr 11, 2014, 7:15pm
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forgivable? sure.  fortunately, you're in Vancouver where there are at lest a few good specialty coffee shops. perhaps you can wander in and do a bit of tasting?

be forewarned though...every prep method has some cleanup involved

 
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Posted Fri Apr 11, 2014, 7:22pm
Subject: Re: Brew method best suited to ceramic burr Hario or Porlex hand grinder
 

After being frustrated by the amount of dust from a kitchen-aide grinder I put it in a closet and purchased a Hario Skerton. It is used to make my every day 700 cc chemex pot. After a few adjustments I have a grind which satisfies me and which is minus much of the dust of my formerly used grinder. I use a Lelit pl53 for espresso grind.  I do not use the Hario for a classic press pot but have tried it in my "impress" with satisfactory results.


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Posted Sat Apr 12, 2014, 7:36am
Subject: Re: Brew method best suited to ceramic burr Hario or Porlex hand grinder
 

The most difficult grinds are coarse and fine.  Almost any burr grinder can do an acceptable job in the mid ranges.  

We each have our own standards.  According to mine, even with all the mods on earth, a Hario can't do better than barely adequate for either espresso or (coarse) press.  But it (and similar, small, hand grinders) handle all the methods which want mid-sized grinds, including pour over; Chemex, auto-drip; Aeropress; siphon; and vac, with aplomb.  

BTW, you can do reasonably good press with medium grinds and a few workarounds; although with most presses, a really good coarse grind is best.  

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Posted Sat Apr 12, 2014, 9:04am
Subject: Re: Brew method best suited to ceramic burr Hario or Porlex hand grinder
 

As a FYI the OE PFP mod does not work with recent vintage Skertons.

I am currently using a Skerton as I am in-between a LIDO 1 and a LIDO 2.  I would argue it isn't good for much more than fine grounds. I use it with an Aeropress with good results but was less happy with drip and would argue it doesn't work for Chemex.
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Posted Sat Apr 12, 2014, 9:53am
Subject: Re: Brew method best suited to ceramic burr Hario or Porlex hand grinder
 

Thank you for the responses so far!
So do pour over drippers (bonmac one hole style or bee house three hole) use medium or fine?!

Aeropress is fine?

Clever is fine or medium or course? I've found references to all there!!!

Anyone with experience with porlex?
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Posted Sat Apr 12, 2014, 11:38am
Subject: Re: Brew method best suited to ceramic burr Hario or Porlex hand grinder
 

mguzzi Said:

Thank you for the responses so far!
So do pour over drippers (bonmac one hole style or bee house three hole) use medium or fine?!

Aeropress is fine?

Clever is fine or medium or course? I've found references to all there!!!

Anyone with experience with porlex?

Posted April 12, 2014 link

Aeropress uses a pretty fine grind and one that the hand grinder should be able to produce pretty well.

Among the drippers, my choice for a hand grinder would be one you didn't mention, the Hario V60, because of its large aperture. You can grind finer and control the brew time with your pour. I use one with an old Zassenhaus hand mill, and I find it works pretty well.
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Posted Sat Apr 12, 2014, 12:10pm
Subject: Re: Brew method best suited to ceramic burr Hario or Porlex hand grinder
 

As it has been stated that the Skerton "doesn't work for Chemex" I will cease using it for that at once. I will also instruct the bumble bees in my neighborhood that they cannot fly.

LOL, Sky
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