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Bman
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Location: Johnstown, PA
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Espresso: Quickmill Anita
Grinder: Mazzer Super Jolly
Vac Pot: Nope, Bodum Press
Drip: Not any more
Roaster: I-Roast, Behmor 1600
Posted Thu Mar 6, 2014, 4:56am
Subject: Grinder for French Press and Vac Pot
 

Hi All, I am in the market for a new burr grinder for my French press and vac pot.  I was thinking about the Baratza Encore or the Capresso Infinity.  I would like to keep this in the 100 dollar range, and this will be an improvement over my 20 dolllar whirly blade, which had done well for the past 15 years.  Are these grinders any good or is there other models that I should consider?

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GlennM
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Posted Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:17am
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I have a Baratza Virtuoso Preciso at home and a Capresso Infinity at my office.  I use the Capresso exclusively for french press and/or pour over and I've been extremely satisfied with this grinder.  I've owned it for over 5 years and it is used daily.  Great little grinder for the price and size (small and light).  I'm not familiar with the Encore, but have nothing but great things to say about Capresso Infinity.  Also, I've tapped into Capresso's  customer service/repair department over the years and the service has been excellent.
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DigMe
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Espresso: Expobar Office Pulser,...
Grinder: Super Jolly, Mazzer Mini,...
Vac Pot: Bodum Santos
Drip: Capresso ST600, Presto...
Roaster: Behmor, SC/CO, Poppery I,...
Posted Fri Mar 7, 2014, 7:29am
Subject: Re: Grinder for French Press and Vac Pot
 

I agree with everything that Glenn has said.  My Capresso Infinity is now going at 10 years of almost daily use (no exaggeration) with an occasional burr replacement and the grind quality is still excellent.  I mostly use it for drip and manual pourover both with a paper filter and a swiss gold pourover but I do an occasional French press and an occasional vacuum brew.  I use a Mazzer for espresso.  I also experienced customer service from Capresso that really surprised me.  I didn't expect it to be that good from a larger company.


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Bman
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Location: Johnstown, PA
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Espresso: Quickmill Anita
Grinder: Mazzer Super Jolly
Vac Pot: Nope, Bodum Press
Drip: Not any more
Roaster: I-Roast, Behmor 1600
Posted Fri Mar 7, 2014, 7:32am
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OK, that is very good to know.  I was on their website and they also make a regular burr grinder for like 50 bucks, non-conical burrs.  I wonder how this would compare for french press and vac pot coffee?  I am also looking into an Aeropress for travel and maybe even camping.
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DigMe
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Espresso: Expobar Office Pulser,...
Grinder: Super Jolly, Mazzer Mini,...
Vac Pot: Bodum Santos
Drip: Capresso ST600, Presto...
Roaster: Behmor, SC/CO, Poppery I,...
Posted Fri Mar 7, 2014, 7:39am
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Bman Said:

OK, that is very good to know.  I was on their website and they also make a regular burr grinder for like 50 bucks, non-conical burrs.  I wonder how this would compare for french press and vac pot coffee?  I am also looking into an Aeropress for travel and maybe even camping.

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Don't do it..  Just put out the money for the Infinity.  It has great reviews that have stood the test of time.  The flat burr grinders that are that cheap are NOT good.

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Espresso: La Cimbali M21 DT/1 Junior...
Grinder: Ceado E92; "Bunnzilla"
Vac Pot: Royal Coffee Maker
Drip: Chemex + Kone; Espro Press
Roaster: USRC Sample Roaster
Posted Fri Mar 7, 2014, 12:28pm
Subject: Re: Grinder for French Press and Vac Pot
 

The Encore and Infinity are adequate for Vac and drip, but at coarser settings their irregular particle size requires using work-arounds for French press.  Those include things like a finer than otherwise optimal grind (and still living with a lot of sediment), the "French pull," etc.  

"Good" for press starts at around $200 with the Baratza Virtuoso and Breville Smart (available for $160 at BB&B with a 20% off coupon).  We used a Smart for three years and were very happy with it.  

"Very Good" FP starts at around the same price with two manual grinders; the by Knock by Hausgrind and the Orphan Espresso Lido 2.  The least expensive, "very good" FP electric grinder is the Baratza Vario with steel, Ditting, "brew" burrs -- around $500 new, but you can get them for less directly from Baratza as a "refurb."  Just be sure to tell them which burrs you want.    

Getting back to realistic levels of sticker shock:
I know it's expensive compared to a Bodum clone and a blade grinder, but if you're serious about press an Espro and a Smart will shift your paradigm.  

Good luck,
Rich
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Bman
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Espresso: Quickmill Anita
Grinder: Mazzer Super Jolly
Vac Pot: Nope, Bodum Press
Drip: Not any more
Roaster: I-Roast, Behmor 1600
Posted Mon Mar 10, 2014, 12:19pm
Subject: Re: Grinder for French Press and Vac Pot
 

GlennM Said:

I have a Baratza Virtuoso Preciso at home and a Capresso Infinity at my office.  I use the Capresso exclusively for french press and/or pour over and I've been extremely satisfied with this grinder.  I've owned it for over 5 years and it is used daily.  Great little grinder for the price and size (small and light).  I'm not familiar with the Encore, but have nothing but great things to say about Capresso Infinity.  Also, I've tapped into Capresso's  customer service/repair department over the years and the service has been excellent.

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Which would you prefer for FP coffee, the Infinity or the Baratza?

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GlennM
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Posted Thu Mar 13, 2014, 8:03am
Subject: Re: Grinder for French Press and Vac Pot
 

If price were not a factor, I would take the Baratza, because it has more versatility, if my needs changed in the future (i.e. I was thinking of using for espresso).

This said, taking price into consideration and if I felt confident that I'd only use for FP, then I would hands down go with the Capresso.  It's substantially less expensive and will do everything (in my opinion) required to grind beans for press coffee.   I also really like that it's quite small and very light.  Yes it's plastic, but this hasn't seemed to affect performance or durability.

Hope this helps.
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Espresso: Dalla Corte Mini
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Posted Thu Mar 13, 2014, 5:19pm
Subject: Re: Grinder for French Press and Vac Pot
 

I would definitely go for the conical capresso infinity over the $50 one. I used to own this grinder and it was awesome for the price. I think the Baratza Encore is a bit nicer built, less staticy, and has more grind settings but it is also pricier. You really can't go wrong with either of them!
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DigMe
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Location: Waco
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Expobar Office Pulser,...
Grinder: Super Jolly, Mazzer Mini,...
Vac Pot: Bodum Santos
Drip: Capresso ST600, Presto...
Roaster: Behmor, SC/CO, Poppery I,...
Posted Fri Mar 14, 2014, 12:38pm
Subject: Re: Grinder for French Press and Vac Pot
 

GlennM Said:

This said, taking price into consideration and if I felt confident that I'd only use for FP, then I would hands down go with the Capresso.  It's substantially less expensive and will do everything (in my opinion) required to grind beans for press coffee.   I also really like that it's quite small and very light.  Yes it's plastic, but this hasn't seemed to affect performance or durability.

Hope this helps.

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The size thing is a really good point as I always take mine with me on car trips and occasionally flights too.  On car trips it conveniently fits in a standard canvas bag with my Bodum mini Ibis boiler, beans, scoop, pourover and filters.   You could probably fit the grinder, boiler and a very slim French press in there together too.  The Mini Ibis is the perfect travel boiler as well IMO.  Not sure if they make it in Mini anymore or not.  

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