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Posted Wed Jan 15, 2014, 11:03am
Subject: Where to buy commercial Vietnemese Phin filter brewer?
 

I've always seen Vietnemese coffee makers scooping or pouring coffee out of pots, so I thought they boiled the grounds. It turns out they are using huge "Phin" filters and am not sure if they are home-made or what? I did a search for jumbo Phin filters but can't find anything, perhaps they fall under a different name? Anyone seen these for sale anywhere, and do you think asian markets might sell them in Little Saigon in Los Angeles?

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Posted Wed Jan 15, 2014, 11:07am
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I'll post a couple more images. It appears that these function just like the single cup Phin filters, except of course a pot is used to collect the decoction rather than a coffee cup.

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Posted Wed Jan 15, 2014, 11:09am
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And in this case jars collect the brew (the filter which are used on these are shown in the first image.)

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Posted Wed Jan 15, 2014, 11:10am
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I'd start at Ranch 99, since there's probably one not too far from you, and they tend to have a relatively good stock of kitchen items. If you can't find them there, it would be rather shocking if you can't find them in Little Saigon. After all, that's like the US Vietnamese equivalent for Mecca.

 
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Posted Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:23pm
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If you can't find one of those, look for an old drip-o-lator. I believe they are pretty much the same thing.
Or you could probably rig one out of a double boiler kitchen pot...
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Posted Thu Jan 16, 2014, 12:56am
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Bob_E Said:

If you can't find one of those, look for an old drip-o-lator. I believe they are pretty much the same thing.
Or you could probably rig one out of a double boiler kitchen pot...

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This is about as accurate as suggesting an egg beater for frothing milk lol...

Vietnamese coffee phin compacts the grinds coffee into a tight puck through which water drips.

The denser the puck the more concentrated the coffee and the slower the drip. It's customary for Vietnamese people to sit and have a relaxing chat or read the paper while their coffee drips--the longer drip the better the coffee.. Once completed the coffee has cooled while dripping over the ice and is stirred into the condense milk.  This is "cafe sua da" aka "Vietnamese coffee".  Yes you can drink it hot too but I've never seen any Vietnamese person drink it hot.. not in my 40+ years as a Vietnamese person.  Vietnam is very hot and humid so people prefer iced in their drinks, including beer.


OP-- you can pick up one from Amazon for $7.

Vietnamese Traditional Coffee Phin Filter - 6 Ounce, Gravity Insert by Tantiendat Click Here (www.amazon.com)

Btw the above item is a more modern version in favor of a less pressure on the grinds using a only friction of the top shower screen for faster brewing to accomodate todays busy clientele.  Old school phin brewers have a screw tightened shaft and are harder to find but will offer a tighter 'shot' (so to speak).  They aren't as reliable the new ones because the screws or threads Eventually get stripped with use.  They are all generally poorly made and like everything in Vietnam, very inexpensive.  In Vietnam they cost under $2usd (and that's the tourist price).
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Posted Thu Jan 16, 2014, 8:14am
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Hmm, my drip-o-lator can do that...
It uses a friction fit between the top perforated plate and the bottom cup. I usually only compress it enough to even out the grounds and make sure there are no air pockets.

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Posted Thu Jan 16, 2014, 4:57pm
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Well I was in Cerritos today and found a Ranch 99 close bye. No luck on the jumbo Phin filter, they mostly sell pots and stuff for cooking rice. I did find two cans of Vietnemese coffee I've never seen before: Tay Nguyen (Aroma) coffee and "Cafe Ong Tho" dark french roast so thanks for the suggestion. Haven't tried them yet so not sure if they are any good.

Regarding the drip-o-later it looks like Lehmans sells them here...

https://www.lehmans.com/p-1735-non-electric-drip-coffee-maker.aspx

It does need something to tamp down the grounds and I can't tell by the picture if it has one. Also, South Indian coffee filters are similar to Vietnemese Phin's. The Doctor in charge of the coffee board of India states filters should have 80-120 perforations in them (I'd like to know how he derived at those numbers but I guess that's a subject for another day.) I think single cup Phin's have over 100 perforations but I haven't counted and am not sure how many these Drip-o-laters have? Here's an interesting article on how to make the Indian coffee - good stuff and very similiar to Viet coffee but they use some chicory and regular milk/sugar instead of sweetened condensed milk.

Click Here (www.indiacoffee.org)

Nutty, thanks I already have a Phin filter but am looking for a large commercial one to make large batches of decoction. Just an FYI, I just bought a Phin from an Australian ebay seller - he bought a bunch in Vietnam straight from the Trung Nguyen cafe - it's the new design and looks much better than the $2.00 cheapos. And yea I prefer the "gravity" type filter (the scew types are too finicky for me.)

Other than Trung Nguyen & Cafe DuMonde what beans you using these days for your coffee? I picked up some Gavina coffee at a Vietnemese supermarket awhile back and it's my favorite so far. Not sure but I think it's their "Double French Roast."

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