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JKalpin
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Posted Mon Oct 7, 2013, 1:48pm
Subject: Re: Which brewing method produces the best coffee?
 

What is *good*?

You need to know that, in the process of making *good*, we geeks go overboard:  a bit finer grind, a bit hotter water, a bit longer brew time (etc) trying to enhance the flavour and intensity.

When I do that I eventually reach the  point of *too good*.  Its too intense and in that way, unpleasant.

So, I frequently go to my closest coffee-bar, where they brew in 5 litre pots, never change the grind or the formula or the brew conditions, make decent but pedestrian coffee.

In that way I fine-tune my taste-buds to recognize when I'm brewing *too good* sooner.

The OP has posed an impossible question.  Everyone's taste is different.

 
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Posted Mon Oct 7, 2013, 4:47pm
Subject: Re: Which brewing method produces the best coffee?
 

JKalpin Said:

What is *good*?

When I do that I eventually reach the  point of *too good*.  Its too intense and in that way, unpleasant.

Posted October 7, 2013 link

Well, that's a misnomer, but by definition, if the coffee is unpleasant and too intense, then it is not good at all.

Food tastes, coffee included, are subjective. Period. That is why such questions as that presented by the OP cannot be answered. I am sure there are plenty of folks who would not like our homemade, "old school" sauerkraut. They have an idea of what it should taste like from family picnics or county fairs. Ours is lactic acid fermented naturally and has no vinegar.

We can talk about preparation methods, ease of preparation and brewing, investment, and even body, but "best" is just too vague, and in terms of taste, impossible.

Indeed, this thread is becoming a discussion of the definition of subjective and its application.

"My coffee is best, and if you don't agree, you just don't know anything about coffee."  ;-)

 
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Posted Tue Oct 8, 2013, 1:17am
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frcn Said:

I am sure there are plenty of folks who would not like our homemade, "old school" sauerkraut. They have an idea of what it should taste like from family picnics or county fairs. Ours is lactic acid fermented naturally and has no vinegar.

Posted October 7, 2013 link

I guess my father in law makes sauerkraut that way, too: finely cut, salted, tamped, lacto-fermented cabbage from his own garden. It's delicious!

 
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Posted Tue Oct 8, 2013, 6:09am
Subject: Re: Which brewing method produces the best coffee?
 

That is how I make it too, uh, back to coffee.

My way is the best and forget the rest then again your mouth, your taste WILL vary, it is all personal, there is NO best, only best for you, I smell a troll, I need to go look under the bridge, carry on!

 
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Posted Wed Oct 9, 2013, 7:31am
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calblacksmith Said:

I smell a troll, I need to go look under the bridge, carry on!

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Posted Wed Oct 9, 2013, 6:30pm
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methinks espresso.
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Posted Fri Oct 11, 2013, 9:55am
Subject: Re: Which brewing method produces the best coffee?
 

STOP!  You are to ask ONLY questions whose answers will be strictly objective & factual.  Eliciting differing opinions/experiences or general discussion of a subjective nature only makes up super angry (about coffee).




z0mbie Said:

regular drip
pour over method
machine espresso cafe americano
vacuum/siphon
perculator
french press
aeropress
cold brew (although this a different drink, it's still regular brew strength coffee).
instant (freeze dried foamed coffee)
sock filter
stovetop moka pot espresso - cafe americano
aeropress espresso - cafe americano
vietnamese SS coffee press/filter into hot water

Apology if I missed any.  Sorry mastication followed by hot water doesn't count, although I'm sure someone out there has done it ...once. LOL

Posted October 6, 2013 link

In fact that method is in someone's signature around here.  

If there's anything better than an espresso americano, I don't want to know about it.  THe best I can do is with a vacuum pot.  For Every Day Brewing, regular auto drip.
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Posted Fri Oct 11, 2013, 8:08pm
Subject: Re: Which brewing method produces the best coffee?
 

Not sure it is best ... but for me it works well ...

I have the Bunn Trifecta MB  ... a glorified, quick and easy aeropress type of cup of coffee with no fuss.  
I brew one cup at a time (Use a Vario-W grinder w steel burrs using 21 gm of coffee to 10 oz water) ... you can pre weigh the beans with the vario so there is nothing left in the hopper after the grind.
And since I roast coffee, I will rarely have the same bean twice in a morning ... easy to toss a different bean into the Vario and get a new origin and a different experience.

I like pour overs, aeropress, and espro and appreciate them ... but gotta get going and out the door in the am and this fits the bill of a great cup with an easy switch of bean variety and always produces a great cup.

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Posted Fri Oct 11, 2013, 9:02pm
Subject: Re: Which brewing method produces the best coffee?
 

Burner0000 Said:

Depending on my mood and schedule I switch it up all the time but if I had the time to brew all the time this would be my favorite to least out of them all.

Posted October 7, 2013 link

And THERE IT IS.
Whatever fits your mood. Sometimes I want my Kalita. Sometimes it's a braZen pot. Sometimes a shot of espresso. Sometimes.....
That sometimes extends to WHICH varietal I want, and that may influence which preparation I choose.
There is no concrete answer here, not for me.
Just last week I had the best "coffee" I've had in years, prepared via Kalita, better than any shot of espresso (which I love) I've ever had.
Yet, tomorrow I'm likely gonna be in the mood for a nice 1.5oz tight shot of a comfort food blend.
Just is.

 
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