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jbebel
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Posted Sun Sep 29, 2013, 8:38pm
Subject: Super-automatic office coffee maker
 

I work in a place with a break-room with free coffee. We've had a Cafection Avalon, similar to their Petite X model. http://www.cafection.com/en/products/avalon-series/petite-x If none of you are familiar, I'm not surprised. It doesn't make great coffee, and it has maintenance problems. I'm looking for suggestions for something to replace it.

Here are the requirements:
  • Fully automatic. While I'm a coffee lover, we have a lot of people that just want to press a button and get a cup, and many of them after-hours when no one can maintain the machine or keep fresh coffee brewed.
  • No education needed to use it. We've got smart people, but there's only so much they will do to get their cup of coffee.
  • Grind and brew. We have a good local coffee supplier, and we'd like to keep using their beans, not something like K-cups.
  • Has to support reasonable large volume. We have about 100 people.
  • Make the best coffee possible.

What sort of options are there for something like this? I don't really even know where to look. Thoughts so far:
  • Anything not fresh is out. No K-cups. We want to use fresh locally roasted beans, ground and brewed on demand.
  • Our chef suggested a Bunn Trifecta, but looking at it, I'm concerned it will take too much effort, and perhaps education, to operate. It seems like more than just push-button coffee to me.
  • Something like a Moccamaster wouldn't work because we'll have people that want to get coffee all hours of the day, and on weekends, when there won't be someone around to make it for them.

I realize this might be the wrong forum, since it's about making great coffee, and I'm looking for a way for my co-workers to make easy coffee. I'm just looking for the best automatic coffee maker we can get that's still easy. Anyone have experience in this area, or know where I should look?
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Posted Sun Sep 29, 2013, 9:36pm
Subject: Re: Super-automatic office coffee maker
 

Depending on your budget, the Unic Tango Solo impressed at Barista Nation L.A. this weekend. At $14k, it's a serious investment, but I heard several people there say that it was the first super-auto they'd come across where they'd actually drink the espresso it made. Every time I went by the Unic display, it looked like a crowd checking it out.

disclaimer: I didn't get a shot from it, so I can't speak from personal experience, but the crowd there were all serious pros.
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Posted Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:50pm
Subject: Re: Super-automatic office coffee maker
 

I'm no fan of Nespresso by far, but have you considered getting one of their business solutions machines like the Gemini CS 220 Pro, for example? It's pre-ground coffee, but it tastes better than what some superautomatics brew.

 
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Posted Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:46am
Subject: Re: Super-automatic office coffee maker
 

We already have a Unic Rumba espresso machine. What we're looking for is regular coffee. Something that an uneducated (in coffee preparation) person can push a button and get a carefully prepared cup of regular coffee. The Nespresso doesn't grind fresh beans to make coffee. We'd rather have something that can perform this task completely automatically.
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Posted Mon Sep 30, 2013, 12:09pm
Subject: Re: Super-automatic office coffee maker
 

The Tango. isn't the Rumba. It is a true bean to cup super-auto, not a pod system. It'll do from single shots to an Americano-sized cup, plus has milk functions. As i said. it looks to be the super-auto that could. Since you've already got a Unic in the office, you could probably get a good look at the Tango if you ask your distributor/maintenance folks.
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Posted Mon Oct 14, 2013, 6:34pm
Subject: Re: Super-automatic office coffee maker
 

Seems like office automatic coffee maker are all very expensive, I think you need to consider to buy a coffee machine around 1000$. And the machine need to have a quick brewing function, as no people would like to wait in the working environment. Another thing is, may be 1-cup brewing is the one, we could not let the coffee overbrewed or wasted. Take into the two points in choosing your best automatic coffee maker.
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Posted Tue Oct 15, 2013, 11:18am
Subject: Re: Super-automatic office coffee maker
 

Honestly, I think that most non geeks would be quite happy with properly prepared auto drip. It does not get much easier than that.

A good grinder such as a Bunn LPG and a plumb in air pot or station brewer.

Take the drip cone from the machine
Put a clean new filter in it.
Put cone/filer into grinder and push start button.
Take filled cone/filter/coffee and place in brewer.
Place empty air pot or station under brewer.
Push button on brewer
Remove cone from brewer throw away used filter and grounds and place empty filter back into brewer.

It doesn't get much easier than that and properly made drip is pretty darn good. Just use FRESH beans not stale bulk beans!

Grinders
http://www.bunn.com/products/grinders/lpg.html
http://www.bunn.com/products/grinders/LPG2E.html
http://www.bunn.com/products/grinders/FPG_2_DBC.html
http://www.bunn.com/products/grinders/G9_2T_HD.html


Brewers
http://www.bunn.com/products/satellite/index.html
http://www.bunn.com/products/satellite/dual_tf_dbc.html
http://www.bunn.com/products/satellite/dual_sh.html
http://www.bunn.com/products/satellite/dual_dbc.html

Or even one of these.
http://www.bunn.com/products/automatic/u3.html

 
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jbebel
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Posted Tue Oct 15, 2013, 2:16pm
Subject: Re: Super-automatic office coffee maker
 

Thanks. We're actually looking at one of the Curtis G4 series brewers. It looks nicely programmable to get consistent results. Any reason not to look at that? We're thinking one of the thermal dispensers to get volume. The satellites make me nervous, because anything that puts heat into coffee after it's brewed I've heard has potential to change it for the worse.

This will provide great coffee during normal business hours while we have kitchen staff to keep it stocked. The problem is still after-hours coffee. The weekend security guard doesn't need to make a gallon of coffee, and doesn't really want to go to the effort of brewing a batch when they are used to push-button coffee right now. I think we may have to try to keep one of the Avalon machines running for night/weekend use, but discourage its use during business hours.
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