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Posted Sat Sep 21, 2013, 8:04am
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barkingburro Said:

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

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So true . . . .

 
A morning without coffee is sleep . . .
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Posted Sat Sep 21, 2013, 11:08am
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jpender Said:

I've seen mention of an initial steaming of the grounds but I think you're wrong to assume that means the temperature is 212F.

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jbviau Said:

FWIW I asked via Twitter and got this response: https://twitter.com/iCoffee/status/361951647733264384

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@jbviau: "Curious: is the "steam" used by your brewer literally steam, i.e. water heated past the boiling point?"
@iCoffee: "You betcha, Joshua! The grounds are steamed and then tumbled. #NoFakeSteam"

That doesn't answer the question about temperature.
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Posted Sat Sep 21, 2013, 1:45pm
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CoffeeRoastersClub Said:

More on the steaming process:  Here is a long interview with the CEO of iCoffee where he talks about it steaming coffee grounds causing them to "puff up like rice being steamed" and additionally causing the "bean to fracture".

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We advise folks that the most important thing they can get to improve that quality of their coffee is a good burr grinder.  This is because uniform grind size, which is not attainable with a blade grinder, makes it impossible to control the extraction process.

If indeed the steaming process can create puffed coffee and/or fracture the grounds into smaller pieces, it seems to me that would defeat the whole "uniform grind size" goal of a quality grinder.
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Posted Mon Sep 23, 2013, 6:00pm
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Tried out get icoffee machine and after testing it against my technivorm it's going back to Bloomingdales. The coffee made from it is not bad but I certainly did not think it trumps my technivorm in taste especially if I stir my coffee inside the basket of the Tech.

A couple notes.  

  1. The gold tone filter also includes the clear plastic window which is made a part of it. My concern is if the filter rips then I'm sure it would be costly to replace. The clear window is cool in theory but to be honest you can't see anything once it starts. There's a little bulb lite but it gets quickly overtaken once the grinds start swirling.

  2. The coffee after sitting for a few on the warmer tasted somewhat burned. Probably not that uncommon with a warming plate but I have a stainless carafe for the technivorm and haven't noticed this before.

  3.  Water remains inside the basket that holds the gold tone filter. Small puddle every time.

  4.  A little hard to get the grinds off the gold tone filter, especially after being used to just dumping a cone filter into the trash.

  5.  Brew time is definitely longer.

  6. The music did not bother me, but I also did not have it for that long for it to get on my nerves. Also no option that I saw to disable.

The taste is smooth definitely not bitter but also lacking IMO. I guess after having tried both I do enjoy some of the nuances the technivorm provides.  I did use the same coffee and grind to do a side by side comparison. I use a Baratza Preciso.

I was initially going to get a bunn trifecta mb but was a little concerned with the price and thought why not try the icoffee. I can at least say I tried it and can move on. If the Trifecta ever lowers some in price I may give it a try but until then I'll keep enjoying my old faithful Technivorm.
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