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garrett17
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Posted Tue Aug 20, 2013, 4:17am
Subject: Hand Grinder Besides Lido or Rosco Mini Grinder for Syphon
 

Hi,

I need a recommendation. I know the topic of manual grinders can get repetitive but hopefully my question won't be as I am using a balancing syphon. I do not use any other brewing method so I will never need to adjust it for a different grind.

I grind 35 grams of roasted whole bean at a time. It is done 2 times per day (men and women are doing the grinding). I am looking to spend up to $400 for a manual hand grinder. It cannot be ground between the knees, rather it must be done standing up. I have been using the OE Lido and I am really happy with it but OE is out of stock for a few months and I need a few grinders now.

I looked at the Rosco but my questions were not responded to regarding time to grind 35 grams, lead and delivery time and pricing so this is not an option.

In short, I suspect the Lido and Rosco are the two answers everyone would normally give but now I need a third choice.

Last but not least I purchased the Hario Skerton and it took forever to grind 35 grams at a medium fine to find grind. The grind size I use is about the size of sugar granules.  Whereas the Lido takes about 1 - 1.5 minutes. This is the time frame I am looking for.

Could any of the new Zassenhaus' work? I contacted the company directly in Germany and they responded immediately! They suggested the Lima, but it appears the capacity is 30 grams (I need 35). Brasila but this is geared for knees and the Santiago which looks like I need to place it on a table. I prefer it to be hand held as I am afraid the glasses on a table will shake and potentially fall off but maybe I am worrying for nothing?

What do you suggest? I am open to anything at this point.

Thanks,
Blake
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sgnoobie
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Posted Thu Aug 22, 2013, 4:40am
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A few grinders? Is this for home use or in a commercial setting?

Is a Hario Slim not an option?
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garrett17
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Posted Thu Aug 22, 2013, 5:07am
Subject: Re: Hand Grinder Besides Lido or Rosco Mini Grinder for Syphon
 

I wrote on my bio that I own a Hario Skerton. I have to admit I used for one day only as I thought it was inadequate because it took a long time to grind the beans and the capacity was less than 35 grams if my recollection serves me right. In reflection I think I made a mistake and in fact I own the Mini. So to answer your question, the Mini is not suitable for the reasons I provided.

The coffee is served in a commercial setting but only once or twice a day and only for one grind setting. The reason I need many grinders is that I use it in a few places simultaneously but they are all commercial settings.

If you have any other suggestions I am all ears!
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sgnoobie
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Posted Fri Aug 23, 2013, 4:13am
Subject: Re: Hand Grinder Besides Lido or Rosco Mini Grinder for Syphon
 

Look at the Porlex grinders...You may need the normal/bigger size one for 35grams but I'm not sure about that.

They are supposed to be more efficient than the Hario's in term of grinding turns. I just could never justify buying one since the Hario slim for me is almost perfect in terms of grind consistency and price.
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MWJB
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Posted Fri Aug 23, 2013, 5:22am
Subject: Re: Hand Grinder Besides Lido or Rosco Mini Grinder for Syphon
 

I have used a Porlex to grind 30g plus, but it was a hell-for-leather race against a full, boiling kettle (~4mins). It's a great grinder at finer settings (less than 1.5 turns out) and smaller doses (<20g).

Depending on bean, you can often get 35g in a Porlex, but I don't think it really suits garrett17's remit.
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garrett17
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Posted Fri Aug 23, 2013, 9:00am
Subject: Re: Hand Grinder Besides Lido or Rosco Mini Grinder for Syphon
 

4 minutes to grind is too long. This is for a restaurant and nobody wants to watch staff stand around grinding and sweating for 4 minutes unfortunately. I was thinking of taking a handle off and just placing an electric screwdriver over it but while that is efficient it is not very classy.

SGNoobie I really appreciate your suggestion and the follow up from MWJB but I am starting to wonder if I have possibly stumped the coffeegeek forum? I hope not!

I know my problem can be solved once the new Lido comes out but I just need something to get me through for the next few months. Perhaps if I hire someone who can grind coffee and tap dance at the same time it could distract from the time it takes to grind?
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Posted Fri Aug 23, 2013, 8:51pm
Subject: Re: Hand Grinder Besides Lido or Rosco Mini Grinder for Syphon
 

The new Comandante grinders are coming out soon--not sure if that's true in Thailand though. Check their Facebook page for the latest info. Otherwise, vintage grinders are an option. See here, for example: Click Here (www.home-barista.com)
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garrett17
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Posted Fri Aug 23, 2013, 9:17pm
Subject: Re: Hand Grinder Besides Lido or Rosco Mini Grinder for Syphon
 

JBVIAU you are awesome! The traditional grinders you pointed out all seem to be used between the knees so that will not work and many others rest on a table and that won't work either. Finally, I am hesitant in buying an old grinder unless it is from someone I can trust as I do not have the time to do the refurbishment on my own (although I think it would be fun to do).

However, I did look at the Comandante and that looks fantastic! I just wrote to them so I hope they respond right away. Thank you for coming up with a option that I have never heard of before. I knew posting on this site had its merits. :)

Have you tried the Comandante grinder yourself?
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garrett17
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Posted Fri Aug 23, 2013, 9:24pm
Subject: Re: Hand Grinder Besides Lido or Rosco Mini Grinder for Syphon
 

I am wondering if anyone has used the Hario clear coffee grinder? Here is a video on Youtube that was sent to me: Click Here (www.youtube.com)
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jbviau
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Posted Sat Aug 24, 2013, 6:06am
Subject: Re: Hand Grinder Besides Lido or Rosco Mini Grinder for Syphon
 

Re: the Clear, a *little* more: http://www.home-barista.com/advice/hario-clear-t27044.html

I did play a bit with a Comandante prototype in April. I liked it but didn't have a chance to do serious testing. Some refinements to the design have been made since then, I understand. A few comments can be found here: Click Here (www.home-barista.com)
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