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xpfshost
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Posted Thu Aug 8, 2013, 2:20pm
Subject: Best drip coffeemaker?  Lost my last Presto today :/
 

Hi.  Haven't been on here in ages, but I am a devout coffee drinker (only buy local freshly-roasted coffee), and my precious Presto Scandinavian died today.  I had originally bought 3, because they were known to eventually fail.  This was the last of my 'spares'.  Now I need to find a suitable replacement.

I am familiar with pour-overs, coffee presses, etc.  I would like to stick to an automatic drip coffee maker, though.  Anyone have a bead on a reasonably priced replacement for my Presto?  I need to watch the budget, so it should be under $100 (gulp).

Thanks in advance!
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Posted Thu Aug 8, 2013, 5:29pm
Subject: Re: Best drip coffeemaker?  Lost my last Presto today :/
 

I would have emailed you this but I don't see an email for you.  There were a couple Prestas on eBay.  I have no association with the listings.  You may wish to give them a look:

Click Here (www.ebay.com)

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Posted Thu Aug 8, 2013, 5:35pm
Subject: Re: Best drip coffeemaker?  Lost my last Presto today :/
 

Thanks.  I did see those on Ebay, but I was hoping to find something newer (more recent manufacture) for that kind of money...especially since the Presto's were prone to fail after a couple of years.  One Presto is going for $79 and the other for $105 (or best offer for both).  

Thanks again.
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Posted Thu Aug 8, 2013, 9:30pm
Subject: Re: Best drip coffeemaker?  Lost my last Presto today :/
 

Have you thought about investing more money and getting a Technivorm Moccamaster? They're SCAA approved and supposed to be some of the best drip coffee makers around.

 
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Posted Fri Aug 9, 2013, 7:52am
Subject: Re: Best drip coffeemaker?  Lost my last Presto today :/
 

Best thing close to your price range will easily be a Bonavita if you can stretch your budget to about $150 or so.
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Posted Fri Aug 9, 2013, 1:16pm
Subject: Re: Best drip coffeemaker?  Lost my last Presto today :/
 

Yes, I looked at the Moccamaster.  I'd LOVE to have that...but my money tree didn't bloom this year. ;)

I have looked at the Bonavita.  I will buy that as a last resort.  I was hoping for something under $100.  The Presto's were around $18 back-in-the-day.  Should have bought 10 of them instead of 3 all those years ago :/

I did find it interesting, once I started digging for information about the Bonavita, that Melitta sells the thermal carafe AND the filter cone that sits on top (same ones used by the Bonavita coffee maker) for LESS money than they sell the Bonavita-branded replacement carafe without the cone!  I may decide to buy the Melitta carafe/cone combo and use it as a dedicated pour-over (although I REALLY wanted an automatic drip).

I also found that the Bonavita has been around for many years.  It used to be sold overseas under the Melitta brand name.  I don't believe it's still being sold over there.  In the US, it's obviously the same coffee maker, just branded with the Bonavita brand name.  Very interesting.

I also have a French press I haven't used yet.  Which means that I'll have to head out to get some coffee that's the right grind for the French press.

God I hate this :/
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Posted Fri Aug 9, 2013, 2:15pm
Subject: Re: Best drip coffeemaker?  Lost my last Presto today :/
 

xpfshost Said:

Yes, I looked at the Moccamaster.  I'd LOVE to have that...but my money tree didn't bloom this year. ;)

I have looked at the Bonavita.  I will buy that as a last resort.  I was hoping for something under $100.  The Presto's were around $18 back-in-the-day.  Should have bought 10 of them instead of 3 all those years ago :/

I did find it interesting, once I started digging for information about the Bonavita, that Melitta sells the thermal carafe AND the filter cone that sits on top (same ones used by the Bonavita coffee maker) for LESS money than they sell the Bonavita-branded replacement carafe without the cone!  I may decide to buy the Melitta carafe/cone combo and use it as a dedicated pour-over (although I REALLY wanted an automatic drip).

I also found that the Bonavita has been around for many years.  It used to be sold overseas under the Melitta brand name.  I don't believe it's still being sold over there.  In the US, it's obviously the same coffee maker, just branded with the Bonavita brand name.  Very interesting.

I also have a French press I haven't used yet.  Which means that I'll have to head out to get some coffee that's the right grind for the French press.

God I hate this :/

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Do I understand correctly that you don't have a grinder?  I think you would be far better served by putting your money into a grinder and getting a coffee maker at a yard sale until you could afford what you want (or go with a pour over as you express you might be willing to do).  A refurbed encore and a melitta dripper won't break the bank by much.
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Posted Fri Aug 9, 2013, 2:25pm
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RoyceRuiz Said:

Do I understand correctly that you don't have a grinder?  I think you would be far better served by putting your money into a grinder and getting a coffee maker at a yard sale until you could afford what you want (or go with a pour over as you express you might be willing to do).  A refurbed encore and a melitta dripper won't break the bank by much.

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I've never owned a grinder.  The coffee roaster we buy from grind the coffee for us when we buy it.  I wouldn't even know where to start looking for a decent grinder, and have no clue as to what they cost.
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Posted Fri Aug 9, 2013, 2:50pm
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xpfshost Said:

I've never owned a grinder.  The coffee roaster we buy from grind the coffee for us when we buy it.  I wouldn't even know where to start looking for a decent grinder, and have no clue as to what they cost.

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I know this is somewhat unsolicited advise but you would see a dramatic increase in quality with fresh ground coffee.  There is a "rule" ofter quoted here called the "rule of fifteens".  It basically says that green coffee should be roasted within 15 months of harvest, roasted coffee should be ground within 15 days, and ground coffee should be brewed within 15 minutes.  While those numbers are a little debatable (ex. I know people who change the second 15 to anywhere from 8 to 30) the principle stands.  Coffee stales dramatically fast once ground.  An analogy has been used that coffee is like an apple.  Cut an apple up and leave it on the counter.  In a matter of minutes the apple has started to brown and is unappetizing.  Coffee oxidizes in much the same way except we can't see it (because coffee is brown).  Coffee is a fresh product and needs to be treated as such to achieve optimal results.  I would reccomend searching the forums for more discussion on grinders.  If you do, remember that  alot of what you read is geared toward espresso and doesn't apply the same to brewed coffee.

Grinders come in two basic types; blade and burr.  NEVER BUY A BLADE GRINDER!  There are three basic types of burr grinders; fake (ex. Cuisinart), conical and flat.  You get more options such as steel or ceramic but just don't buy a fake bur grinder or a blade grinder and you should be good.  There are hand powered grinders for about $35-$40 (Hario Mini or Hario Skerton) and there are the minimum acceptable electric for $100-$150 (Baratza Encore, Bodum Bistro, etc.).  Priced for grinders go up from there to top of the line had grinders for about $400 to electric grinders for thousands of dollars.  On Baratza's website they release refurbished units on thursdays (I think, correct me someone if I have the wrong day).  Refurbed Encores go for about $119 or $129.  I would reccomend the Encore but others differ (as far as bottom budget electric go.  The OE Lido is a great hand grinder for what your doing but the skerton would work fine.
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Posted Fri Aug 9, 2013, 3:40pm
Subject: Re: Best drip coffeemaker?  Lost my last Presto today :/
 

RoyceRuiz Said:

I know this is somewhat unsolicited advise but you would see a dramatic increase in quality with fresh ground coffee.  There is a "rule" ofter quoted here called the "rule of fifteens".  It basically says that green coffee should be roasted within 15 months of harvest, roasted coffee should be ground within 15 days, and ground coffee should be brewed within 15 minutes.  While those numbers are a little debatable (ex. I know people who change the second 15 to anywhere from 8 to 30) the principle stands.  Coffee stales dramatically fast once ground.  An analogy has been used that coffee is like an apple.  Cut an apple up and leave it on the counter.  In a matter of minutes the apple has started to brown and is unappetizing.  Coffee oxidizes in much the same way except we can't see it (because coffee is brown).  Coffee is a fresh product and needs to be treated as such to achieve optimal results.  I would reccomend searching the forums for more discussion on grinders.  If you do, remember that  alot of what you read is geared toward espresso and doesn't apply the same to brewed coffee.

Grinders come in two basic types; blade and burr.  NEVER BUY A BLADE GRINDER!  There are three basic types of burr grinders; fake (ex. Cuisinart), conical and flat.  You get more options such as steel or ceramic but just don't buy a fake bur grinder or a blade grinder and you should be good.  There are hand powered grinders for about $35-$40 (Hario Mini or Hario Skerton) and there are the minimum acceptable electric for $100-$150 (Baratza Encore, Bodum Bistro, etc.).  Priced for grinders go up from there to top of the line had grinders for about $400 to electric grinders for thousands of dollars.  On Baratza's website they release refurbished units on thursdays (I think, correct me someone if I have the wrong day).  Refurbed Encores go for about $119 or $129.  I would reccomend the Encore but others differ (as far as bottom budget electric go.  The OE Lido is a great hand grinder for what your doing but the skerton would work fine.

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Thanks for the advice!  More homework and shopping to do.  lol  :)
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