JR Senior Member Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Posts: 1,833 Location: Germantown, TN (right next to Elvistown) Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: New but inop Quickmill... Grinder: Baratza Forté, Cunill... Drip: Bona Vita (Thermal) Roaster: GG/UFO
Posted Sun Jun 16, 2013, 12:51pm Subject: Re: Need Recommendations - Drip Machine, < $100
Were you aware that a very large percentage of the 1, 2, and 3 star user comments about the Bonavita BV1800 listing on Amazon focused on its thermal carafe glass liner "exploding"? Alot of those comments appear to be recent. I had thought about buying the Bonavita and wanted a thermal carafe, but that issue was something I did not want to have to think about. Here on CG there also is a thread about the exploding carafes: http://coffeegeek.com/forums/coffee/machines/597724
"Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water." ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674
Posted Sun Jun 16, 2013, 1:20pm Subject: Re: Need Recommendations - Drip Machine, < $100
I too was worried about glass in thermal carafe exploding. I've been using other brands of glass-lined carafes since 1994 with no problems at all---always decanted into thermal carafes since my brewer had glass carafe. I prefer glass-lined, NOT stainless. My most recent one is an Oggi (from BB&B) I got 4 yrs ago. With all the complaints, I was very skeptical as to how well Bonavita carafes were made BUT figured I'd return it if I had problems.
I called Bonavita cust serv about the glass exploding---said NOT to put a lot of pressure on the inside when cleaning and/or to just swish lemon juice and water or mild soap around to clean stains. I've always used an OXO all plastic bottle brush on my other glass-lined carafes with no problem BUT have always been careful---these carafes are typically taller and narrower. ON THE BONAVITA I use a very wet, soapy sponge and clean gently about 1 time wkly---I DO NOT use the OXO brush on the Bonavita carafe.
After using the brewer a couple of wks (Nov 2012) I wanted an extra carafe for back-up so ordered the Melitta Thermal 8 cup Pour Over from Amazon ($34.62). It's exactly the same carafe and comes with the very same filter basket w/stainless trimmed handle. Very handy when you want to brew another 8 cups quickly for company.
Back then extra carafes from Bonavita were $45 plus $5 shipping. They've now gone up, I think to $60(?) and don't know about shipping cost. A month or two ago the pour overs from Amazon were still that same low price.
Posted Sun Jun 16, 2013, 2:41pm Subject: Re: Need Recommendations - Drip Machine, < $100
The one criticism I would have of the Melitta glass lined carafe, is that the outer shell on mine (S/S sides and a plastic base) never seems to fit quite perfectly at the bottom. It's OK, but not perfect, and I wonder if in some instances too much pressure might be put on the glass liner, stressing it more than it should be. Vacuum flasks do have very thin glass generally.
The nice thing about glass flasks is that provided you empty them out and rinse them fairly soon after use, they tend to stain a lot less than SS, so the cleaning regime can be very gentle. I just swish it around with hot water and dishwashing liquid (dish soap to you) and then rinse thoroughly. Rarely need to use anything to scrub inside.
I've never had one explode*, but I'd treat all glass lined vacuum flasks with a bit of care anyway.
*actually, they'd implode I guess, but the resulting mess would be just the same.
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