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Posted Tue Jun 4, 2013, 8:11am
Subject: Porlex JP-30 and Hario V60-- Grind size
 

I'm new to home brewing.  I'm having a hard time finding the right grind size with my porlex for the best results in a Hario v60 -size 2.  I'm brewing a 25 gram dose at 3 minutes and 30 seconds.  Where should my grind size be?  what should it look like?
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Posted Tue Jun 4, 2013, 10:30am
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Try between 5 & 8 clicks out from lock up.

What kind of brew ratio are you using?
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Posted Tue Jun 4, 2013, 2:54pm
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I'm using a 25 gram dose with 400 grams of water.  I'm pulsing the coffee.  First wetting the grinds for 30 seconds by adding 50 grams of water, then adding 100grms water for another 30, then 50 more grams for another 30, 50 grams for another 30, then 150 grams and I finish the brew at 3:30.

The first few cups I made tasted great, but now the coffee isn't as clean as before with a smoky after taste.  I'm guessing that means I need to grind finer, but with this grind setting the last of water is going through the grinds at 3:30 exactly, what I thought was the perfect time.


Of all things coffee, my pallet is the hardest to train, and the right taste is the hardest to learn, so it's hard to know exactly what to change since I don't know exactly what I'm tasting.
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Posted Tue Jun 4, 2013, 4:20pm
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Well, I'd say it's not the "perfect time" if the result in the cup isn't perfect ;-).

The "right taste" won't be hard to determine when you hit it...your eyes will pop wide open!

Thing is there are a couple of points where you might hit on a "right taste", they might be a little way apart and somewhat different...maybe stop at 350g...remove the brewer, swirl/stir & taste the brew, then add the rest in 20 g pulses, repeating the taste test.

Not sure what a "smokey taste" signifies, you might even need to grind a little coarser? Are you getting any dryness in the mouth?
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Posted Tue Jun 4, 2013, 4:31pm
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I dunno.  I will try that and take some notes on the experience next time.
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Posted Wed Jun 5, 2013, 1:13pm
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I tried the same thing again... there's definitely a dryness in my mouth.  I think that's what I mean by an ashy or "smoky" taste.  My initial thought is that I'm brewing too long.  I'm following a recipe from a friend exactly, and his coffee tastes amazing, but I think I'm off on the grind size... I think I need to go coarser???
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Posted Wed Jun 5, 2013, 1:56pm
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The time, in itself, is unlikely to be causing your coffee to be overextracted. The grind is too fine for the volume of brew water you are pushing through the bed. Go coarser and/or use less water.

What is the intensity/mouthfeel like? Could you stand to have it a bit more concentrated if the flavour was better (less water)?
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