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Posted Thu May 2, 2013, 9:29am
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Netphilosopher Said:

I've come across weirder things.

Posted May 2, 2013 link

I filtered a cup of moka this morning. It tasted a little cleaner but otherwise unchanged.


Netphilosopher Said:

Do the microwave-infusion method.

Posted May 2, 2013 link

I've been curious about that. Has David Walsh posted the results of his "homework assignment"?

You may recall that I did this, more or less, some time ago in response to your immersion brewing challenge. Instead of a microwave (is that important?) I simmered coffee in a saucepan for 8 minutes and then filtered it. It was bitter as hell but was also strangely delicious. Very chocolately, as I recall, and I drank the whole thing! And this was from a preground coffee that I hated. I dried the grounds and calculated 24.2% immersion extraction, but since I wasn't referencing the dry weight of the initial coffee back then the number would have been lower by some unknown amount, at least 1-2%.
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Posted Thu May 2, 2013, 11:11am
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Maybe you should also try the Cowboy Coffee Pot On Campfire method, with extra eggshells to clarify the grounds.   :-)
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Posted Fri May 3, 2013, 7:40am
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Netphilosopher Said:

I just want a bigger AeroPress (then I can press the whole thing in one step!).

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It seems like many people would like a bigger version.  I wonder why Alan seems so against this idea.  I would think it would be an easy way to make more money.  I don't know anything about patent law, but I wonder if it has to do with the patent being about the Aeropress as a concentrate brewer.  

When Alan does respond to people asking for a larger version, his answer seems to be to tell them to make a stronger concentrate.

What up Alan?  Crank out a bigger version and make some money.
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Posted Fri May 3, 2013, 10:24am
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russ5679 Said:

It seems like many people would like a bigger version.  I wonder why Alan seems so against this idea.  I would think it would be an easy way to make more money.

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It's not so much that I'm against the idea, as I think the present size is best for 90% of pressing occasions.

Single-serve brewing (or with the AeroPress, up to three servings) is currently a very active coffee category.  I feel lucky to have come to market at this time.  Perhaps in an earlier era, people would not have been as interested in brewing one to three servings.

But don't count me out just yet.  A bigger AeroPress remains a future possibility.

How about a bigger espresso machine?   Or a bigger Keurig?  

Best,

Alan
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Posted Fri May 3, 2013, 10:52am
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So you have the cost of R&D and machining the larger item, and merchandising it.

And the question is: is there a market for another way to make pots of coffee (competing now not with vastly more expensive Keurigs or espresso machines but with cheap melitta funnels, vaccuum pots, Mr. Coffees and Clever funnels)

I can see why you'd wonder.

One thing on the plus side is shelf extension: the number of existing AP owners who would add the larger one to their kitchens.

comparable:  the Jambox.  The tiny jambox is the better design and best value, but Jawbone has nevertheless come out with the Big Jambox because some people figure it's just got to be better. (and to put agains the Bose unit)
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Posted Fri May 3, 2013, 3:03pm
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Netphilosopher Said:

Yep, revisiting the AP is reinforcing my personal limits on brewing temperature.  I get really inconsistent but undesirable flavors when I venture into strike temperatures above 205F.

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What I'm finding/have found is that the microwave method is also sensitive to how long it actually "boils".  If it just bubbles occasionally, I don't get much different than a normal press pot.

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Wouldn't that still be well above 205F?
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Posted Fri May 3, 2013, 3:15pm
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I'm probably weird in that I like small cups of strong coffee so the Aeropress is actually sized perfectly for me. I just don't like the fact that I can't keep the coffee from draining too fast when I use a metal filter, at least not without inverting the AP. And inversion is a kludge with its own issues.


Using the fact that it would be harder to press a larger diameter version as a selling point is kind of funny.
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