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msboo
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Posted Fri Mar 22, 2013, 8:14am
Subject: Re: High-end coffee maker worth it if not grinding beans myself ?
 

I also heard the grinder on this was loud. Also, SCG had it running and thought it was louder than the Virtuoso. I would say the Virtuoso sounds duller, maybe muffled compared to the Breville YouBrew grinder. I have not experience w/the Encore so don't know how loud it is.

I like what CMIN posted except the OP probably needs to grind quicker than hand grinding.

Any others have comparisons for the OP?
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Posted Fri Mar 22, 2013, 8:27am
Subject: Re: High-end coffee maker worth it if not grinding beans myself ?
 

My Preciso at home is significantly quieter than my Bodum Bistro in the office or my Ascaso I-1 espresso grinder at home.  I suspect that transfers across to the other similarly designed Baratza conical grinders - I would think it's mostly a function of casing and burr holder material design (how much damping and transmission of vibration to the air via flat plates) and burr design (how much initial vibration).  The Bodum has a big flat cover on the hopper, and fairly light base and rubber feet in comparison to the Preciso.
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Posted Fri Mar 22, 2013, 8:45am
Subject: Re: High-end coffee maker worth it if not grinding beans myself ?
 

CMIN Said:

Youbrew grinder though is fairly loud, about the same as any other $100 grinder or so.

If grinding noise is really a deal killer (there's really no quiet motorized grinder even if you spend $$$$). For the money, you may want to get say the Bonavita (about $130-150 or so) and makes a great cup, and a hand grinder like the Hario Skerton. No noise, easy grinding.

Posted March 22, 2013 link

The Skerton is actually kind of loud for a hand grinder. The Porlex is relatively quiet. And that assumes the OP wants to grind by hand.


How about driving down the street a little ways and using an inverter to plug the electric grinder into the car?
Or maybe a reallllly long extension cord?

Or you could sound-proof the bathroom (that might have other advantages).
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Posted Fri Mar 22, 2013, 9:02am
Subject: Re: High-end coffee maker worth it if not grinding beans myself ?
 

jpender Said:

The Skerton is actually kind of loud for a hand grinder. The Porlex is relatively quiet. And that assumes the OP wants to grind by hand.


How about driving down the street a little ways and using an inverter to plug the electric grinder into the car?
Or maybe a reallllly long extension cord?

Or you could sound-proof the bathroom (that might have other advantages).

Posted March 22, 2013 link

Yeh you can hear the beans grinding but no motor noise lol, at least compared to the grinders in the $100 range. I have the Hario Slim and it's fairly quiet. Though to what someone said above the Preciso (w/ the updated 2.0 Gearbox) is really quiet vs before, very smooth sounding especially with the lid on the hopper.

My neighbors love their Youbrew though, got them into fresh roasted bean ordering, and their blown away vs what they were drinking before. It is a nifty feature rich machine for the avg home user, makes a great cup. I would go for something like the Brazen and a separate grinder, but the Youbrew is cool for the normal consumer.
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Posted Fri Mar 22, 2013, 9:20am
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perhaps the OP can set the timer so that it grinds the coffee while she's taking a shower in the morning, as the bathroom noise should mask the grinder and thus allow her hubby to slumber blissfully...
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Posted Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:08pm
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Wo, CMIN mentioned someone's Preciso being quieter due to 2.0 Gearbox upgrade. Made me think....  I've wondered IF my Virtuoso had the updated 2.0 Gearbox, it definitely has the new burrs. Little confusing since purchased new, came in old box with '#586' taped on the box AND on the bottom of the grinder something has been sanded or scraped off next to the sticker w/the serial number....  the model number has numbers and letters, no 586 anywhere on the unit itself. Seems burrs were upgraded first, then little later the gearbox SO if anyone knows PLEASE correct me. Also wonder when they changed the model # from 585 to 586.... just after new burrs but before the gearbox upgrade or what.

Anyway, my Virtuoso noise is a smooth growling sort of motor sound whereas the YouBrew had a higher, sharper, clacking sound on SCG's video demo----they had to step away to talk to while it was running BUT did great job grinding and yum coffee. I've thought about the YouBrew for my daughter & SIL----they have one of those fast single brewers.
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Posted Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:51pm
Subject: Re: High-end coffee maker worth it if not grinding beans myself ?
 

msboo Said:

Wo, CMIN mentioned someone's Preciso being quieter due to 2.0 Gearbox upgrade. Made me think....  I've wondered IF my Virtuoso had the updated 2.0 Gearbox, it definitely has the new burrs. Little confusing since purchased new, came in old box with '#586' taped on the box AND on the bottom of the grinder something has been sanded or scraped off next to the sticker w/the serial number....  the model number has numbers and letters, no 586 anywhere on the unit itself. Seems burrs were upgraded first, then little later the gearbox SO if anyone knows PLEASE correct me. Also wonder when they changed the model # from 585 to 586.... just after new burrs but before the gearbox upgrade or what.

Anyway, my Virtuoso noise is a smooth growling sort of motor sound whereas the YouBrew had a higher, sharper, clacking sound on SCG's video demo----they had to step away to talk to while it was running BUT did great job grinding and yum coffee. I've thought about the YouBrew for my daughter & SIL----they have one of those fast single brewers.

Posted March 22, 2013 link

I don't know if that gearbox is updated/can be in the Virtuoso, should be since the only real difference I believe is having the micro adjustment. I had the old gearbox and new 2.0, huge difference, way quieter and smoother sounding.
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Posted Fri Mar 22, 2013, 1:05pm
Subject: Re: High-end coffee maker worth it if not grinding beans myself ?
 

CMIN Said:

Yeh you can hear the beans grinding but no motor noise lol, at least compared to the grinders in the $100 range.

Posted March 22, 2013 link

It's all relative, but I know can shut down conversation or even chase my wife out of the kitchen with the Skerton. Not so with the Porlex.

But we don't really know about lefebvre's situation.
How much noise will it take to wake the sleeping husband?
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Posted Fri Mar 22, 2013, 4:16pm
Subject: Re: High-end coffee maker worth it if not grinding beans myself ?
 

Okay.... well.  Got the YouBrew yesterday. Got some Casi Cielo or some such beans at Starbucks (was on the way home from picking up the machine).

Spent the early evening setting it up (man, that's a LOT OF BUTTONS!).

So got the thing programmed to start at 4:30 this AM.

I have NEVER seen my cat move this fast before. I swear. I didn't even know he COULD move that fast. He was up on top of the cat tree before I could blink.

Bonus feature: no more need for alarm clock.

So yeah, it is loud. The coffee was really, really good though. And hot (and I hadn't pre-warmed the thermal carafe, on account of the programmed auto-start). The hubs agreed. Said he can put up with the noise. Who knew??
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Posted Fri Mar 22, 2013, 6:30pm
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Ha!  Taste trumps noise.

 
- Michael
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