msboo Senior Member Joined: 10 Nov 2012 Posts: 107 Location: Kentucky Expertise: I love coffee
Grinder: Baratza Virtuoso Drip: Bonavita
Posted Wed Mar 20, 2013, 11:49am Subject: Re: Where is Krupps??
WO! Forgot to mention the Behmor Brazen although not on SCAA list. I've had good results brewing 1/2 pots (20 oz) in my Bonavita, grinding fine enough. You might look into a Clever Dripper for the amount you prefer making.
RandomTask Senior Member Joined: 30 Jan 2013 Posts: 19 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Wed Mar 20, 2013, 2:39pm Subject: Re: Where is Krupps??
Yeah, I've never preheated my carafe for my Brazen, the coffee comes out plenty hot. Damn tasty too.
If you have a Chemex, nothing wrong with that, it brews a fine cup of coffee. An Aeropress is also a good option for single cup brewing if you don't want to go for the pour overs. People also seem to discount the french press, it was my preferred brewing method for a good many years, so long as you don't mind a bit "thicker" cup.
I do understand the pain of having to bring your coffee with you, the closes place that I can get coffee is barely drinkable (Tim Hortons) otherwise I'm better off going home. I've acutally been considering buying an Aeropress and a Skerton to bring to work...
Posted Wed Mar 20, 2013, 3:56pm Subject: Re: Where is Krupps??
dyqik Said:
The reason the Behmor Brazen isn't on the aforementioned SCAA list is that they stopped accepting new machines to test just before the Brazen came out (I think while they updated the criteria). I believe that Behmor might still be waiting for them to reopen testing so they can submit a Brazen for approval.
That is correct. I will try to remember to talk to Joe about the certification process when I see him in three weeks.
If you are only making coffee to drink immediately, there's no need to preheat a thermal carafe -.
In terms of the carafe of the Brazen, the first cup poured into a cool ceramic cappa mug is cool enough to drink right away. The second into the now preheated cup needs to cool to be comfortably consumed. I never preheat the carafe and never have seen the need to do so.
The only"test"that finds the Brazen lacking in comparison to the Technivorm (IMO) is the test of time. It is somewhat of a puzzle to me that we spend so much time talking about the importance of temperature control and adjustability in espresso machines (as well as modifying those which do not have it), but that function seems to have been ignored in terms of home coffee makers. Some of the high-end commercial drip machines have it (Curtis for one), but the Brazen is, faik, the only home machine in this price range that boasts it. And for around $100 less than the Technivorm. Add the customer service from Behmor and it seems a no-brainer to me. And altitude compensation, self-calibration, and programmable preinfusion. And manual mode to serve pour-over devices.
Now, to be fair, the Brazen has its oddities. The necessity to do the "upside down" pour before pressing the dispensing lever on the carafe and the dribbles from the shower head after removing the basket. Yes, the carafe dribbles a bit and the shower head dribbles a bit. For the $100 difference, get some nice towels.. ;-)
evfrosine Senior Member Joined: 12 Feb 2011 Posts: 6 Location: New Hampshire Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Mon Mar 25, 2013, 7:13am Subject: Re: Where is Krupps??
Thanks everyone for your suggestions and information. I'm going to research them and try to make a decision, based on brewing 2 cups each time I use it. BTW, I use a small vacuum bottle for traveling made by Thermos/Nissan which is excellent in keeping coffee hot for a very long time. I used it to bring coffee to work with me instead of drinking colored water.
I see that the SCAA is meeting in Boston next month and I'm close enough to go. Is there anything going on there for casual visitors or is it all geared to professionals? evfrosine
evfrosine Senior Member Joined: 12 Feb 2011 Posts: 6 Location: New Hampshire Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Mon Mar 25, 2013, 7:18am Subject: Re: Where is Krupps??
I just looked at the clever dripper and that's what I use for the odd cup of coffee. I also have the collapsible one from LL Bean which I use when I travel. I bought my first dripper @#$% years ago when I lived in San Francisco and have been using it or its replacement since then. I recommend them, but for 2 of us I prefer the lazier way of making coffee..... evfrosine
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