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yakster
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Posted Mon May 6, 2013, 6:19pm
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+1, I found the missing sweetness in some of my coffees, usually coffees from Africa, by lowering the brew temp of the BraZen.

 
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Posted Tue May 7, 2013, 3:59am
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Thanks, I'll drop the temp and see how that works. I ground a little coarser this morning and went back to the mesh just to try. That definately helped.
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Posted Tue May 7, 2013, 4:19am
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Any suggestions regarding bringing those 'flavours' out on FC+ roasts (with a Behmor of course) on the Brazen? I have noticed recently with Ethiopian beans that 204F and 203F were still not seeing specific flavours coming through and I was wondering if the higher brightness beans could really shine with small adjustments on the Brazen (ie chocolate and fruity notes). I know, this is a real technical question and apologize if this is the wrong spot to ask..
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Posted Tue May 7, 2013, 7:18am
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The_Coffee_Guy Said:

Any suggestions regarding bringing those 'flavours' out on FC+ roasts (with a Behmor of course) on the Brazen? I have noticed recently with Ethiopian beans that 204F and 203F were still not seeing specific flavours coming through and I was wondering if the higher brightness beans could really shine with small adjustments on the Brazen (ie chocolate and fruity notes). I know, this is a real technical question and apologize if this is the wrong spot to ask..

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All of my Ethiopians are roasted to C+ not FC+. I don't know of any that suggest FC+. It is my understanding that the darker these beans go, the less origin flavor there is. Have you tried C+ at 201F?
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Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 6:34am
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Rob989_69 Said:

Just got my Brazen last week. It is a drastic improvement over my Bunn commercial I was using. However, I'm not getting the depth of flavor that I'd hoped with it either. I went through the setup, my elevation is 380 so I set it to 500, the did the calibration. The coffee comes out nice and hot. I have the temp set to 203 and the pre-soak set to 1:20. It's a good cup, strong, but I'm not tasting much difference between different coffee's. I have found I like the paper filters a little better than the basket.

My question is, what should I tweak first? I've played with the grind a bit, I have a Virtuoso, which I've currently got at about 15 on the dial. My micro adjust (the set screw you can adjust by taking the case off) is towards the fine end of the middle setting.

Would a shorter or longer presoak help? Maybe a bit hotter temp? I'm using mainly African coffee right now, some Ethiopian and Kenyan. I also have some Sumatran that came with the Brazen. All are good, just not great. Both Africans are roasted by me and are a few days old. I usually let my coffee age a week but with the pre soak I'll roast closer to when I'll actually use it now.

BTW, I always do a full 8 cups when I brew.

I'm REALLY glad to hear they're working on a redesigned carafe. My only complaint is that it's virtually impossible to pour without at least a little dribble.

Posted May 6, 2013 link

If you haven't already done so, you might want to take a closer look at some of the test levels of your brew water, specifically TDS, Ph, and alkalinity. Levels that are out of whack could explain at least some of your problem. These are the target values I have been using: TDS, 120-130 Mg/L (although some sources recommend levels up to 150 Mg/L); Ph, 7.0; alkalinity, 50 Mg/L. I check the TDS of my water using a cheap, widely-available HM digital tester and the other two with aquarium test strips.
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Posted Fri May 10, 2013, 7:04am
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Seems like a good thread to ask this question since its full of Brazen owners. I've been looking at purchasing an electric brewer for a few months now but still love my manual drip methods for when I just want to make one cup for myself.

I was looking at getting a bonavita thermal for my normal coffee routine and upgrading my kettle to a variable temp model for single cup brewing. However after running across the Brazen I'm curious if I could kill two birds with one stone so to speak. I've heard it's possible to brew directly into a Chemex 6 cup with the brazen so does that also mean I could simply use the Brazen as a variable temp water heater and disburse it into a Buono kettle for things like the v60?

Thanks for your expertise!
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Posted Tue May 14, 2013, 7:59pm
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I have not posted (much) to this thread because I did not have a Brazen.

However, I have just had a birthday and two of my children (and families) got together and bought me a Brazen.

In my new Brazen I find none of the problems reported on in earlier posts.

  1. I have no leakage in the seals of the carafe.  Everything is tight.

  2. The carafe pours accurately without unexpected spills.

  3. After the brew has been completed there is a small puddle at the bottom of the water reservoir.  However, it only amounts to a tablespoon or two and is probably steam condensed on the LARGE lid.  At the end of the brew I stuff a tea-towel into it and dry it.

I think Joe Behm's machine is a class-act and will comment further when I have run a few pounds of coffee through it.

 
Jerry
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Posted Wed May 15, 2013, 6:37am
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Exactly how my machine has been since day one Sept 12 2011 too.

Happy 80th birthday Jerry,

Cheers!,
& here's to continued good health! {;-)

 
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Posted Sat May 18, 2013, 5:33am
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The new carafe is working fine, no more leaks.
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