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imsnowbear
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Posted Mon Jul 8, 2013, 9:36am
Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
 

Skioutwest Said:

Add me to the list of faithful owners that have a unit that is short potting.  I use softened water from my Alex Duetto and I also tried to run two treatments with Durgol and the problem is getting worse.

I am a good customer of Behmor ( also have a 1600 roaster) and I am a bit annoyed that they have not replied to my two emails over the past three weeks.

Has anyone heard from Joe recently?  I would expect at least a short reply....something.....

Seems that this is a resolvable issue if it is only a part malfunction.....let's hope it is, because despite this setback it really is a revolutionary product.

-Mark

Posted July 4, 2013 link

My problem with excess residual water was apparently because of a vacuum/vapor lock in the heating chamber. Apparently there were some problems with improperly manufactured lids. Leaving the lid loose solved the problem. I have now drilled a small hole in the cover to relieve the negative pressure in the chamber which allows me to lock the lid in place. I haven't yet had a problem with incomplete water flow since. You might also wish to review my posts at this forum: "Re: Behmor Brazen users weigh in"? starting on page 7.

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Posted Tue Jul 9, 2013, 6:36pm
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imsnowbear Said:

My problem with excess residual water was apparently because of a vacuum/vapor lock in the heating chamber. Apparently there were some problems with improperly manufactured lids. Leaving the lid loose solved the problem. I have now drilled a small hole in the cover to relieve the negative pressure in the chamber which allows me to lock the lid in place. I haven't yet had a problem with incomplete water flow since. You might also wish to review my posts at this forum: "Re: Behmor Brazen users weigh in"? starting on page 7.

hth

Posted July 8, 2013 link

Thanks imsnowbear.  I think the lid was part of my problem.  The issue is not resolved but it improved.  I also sprayed the drain hole while holding the unit upside down.

Will work with this for a few weeks And will see how it goes.  I purchased my unit when it first came out, so maybe I have one of those defective lids.  It does fit on tight....one time when calibrating the lid actually got stuck...

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Posted Tue Jul 9, 2013, 6:39pm
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I believe, when calibrating the units, the lid should be off
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Posted Wed Jul 10, 2013, 8:25am
Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
 

Yeah, the user manual states that the lid should be removed for calibration. The brewer attempts to boil water just to see how hot it can get it. As the boiling point of water is directly related to altitude, it's really just to ensure the altitude calibration is correct so it can place an upper limit on how hot you can set it.

Made the mistake of keeping the lid on for the first calibration, it made such a racket I thought it was going to pop the lid off. Then I actually READ the manual for initial setup...
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Posted Sat Jul 13, 2013, 3:46pm
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Posted Sun Aug 11, 2013, 10:15am
Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
 

Reporting both bad and good news.  Got my original Brazen in Oct 2012.  By Feb 2013 it had acquired the dreaded very slow flow problem.  Citric acid cleaning made no difference, but I'm in a very soft water area, so limescale is unlikely.  It only got worse.  Behmor support replaced the unit, and all was well.

Then a few days ago I noticed the abnormal amount of water left in the reservoir.   Did a flow test and over an inch left from a full pot after 4 min.  Tried multiple citric acid cleanings with no change.  Then I read the post about spraying the drain hole over the sink, so did a thorough upside down spraying for at least 30 seconds.  Let it sit overnight and this morning did my standard brew, checked the reservoir and it was totally empty.  Just did a full pot manual drain test and it emptied completely in about 2 min.  I'm amazed.  From that awful sinking "not again" feeling, to working perfectly.

I always use filtered water, so no idea what may have gotten in there, but for now I'm flying again.  Had to pass this along, and thanks to the OP for the spraying tip.
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Posted Sun Aug 11, 2013, 7:45pm
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My Brazen works well.

But lately, when cleaning up, I run my fingers under the shower-head and they come out full of grinds.   Makes me wonder if grounds can somehow work their way up the shower head and cause a blockage.

 
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Posted Sun Aug 11, 2013, 7:56pm
Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
 

JKalpin Said:

My Brazen works well.

But lately, when cleaning up, I run my fingers under the shower-head and they come out full of grinds.   Makes me wonder if grounds can somehow work their way up the shower head and cause a blockage.

Posted August 11, 2013 link

I swipe that bottom spray head surface once in a while with a damp paper towel but so far haven't gotten any grind residue.  Comes out clean.  I'm thinking you're using a large amount of grounds and getting a lot of bloom.   If that's possible perhaps up the pre-soak time to keep the bloom down during actual brewing.  Another possibility could be your flow rate is so high, or grind so fine blocking the filter, the basket is filling up up too high.  Do you ever get any overflow on the outside of the basket?
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Posted Mon Aug 12, 2013, 5:38am
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...Actually, yes.  The basket does not run over but the grounds come up over the top edge.

My grind is slightly coarser than kosher salt.  The brew is ...where I like it.  If it were too weak I would grind finer and too 'intense' I would grind coarser.  In that case I will increase the pre-soak time.

Thanks for the tip.

 
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Posted Mon Aug 12, 2013, 7:10am
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JKalpin Said:

...Actually, yes.  The basket does not run over but the grounds come up over the top edge.

My grind is slightly coarser than kosher salt.  The brew is ...where I like it.  If it were too weak I would grind finer and too 'intense' I would grind coarser.  In that case I will increase the pre-soak time.

Thanks for the tip.

Posted August 12, 2013 link

Sorry, I didn't really respond to your suggestion that grounds entering the bottom holes might be causing blockage.  In my situation that doesn't seem very plausible for several reasons.  I'm not seeing grounds on the bottom surface.  I did inspect the drain hole in the reservoir with a flashlight and saw nothing unusual, like coffee grounds.  I'd be really surprised if grounds could migrate against the water flow all the way through the valve and up to a point where using a sprayer into the drain hole would clean them out.  I can only assume in my case that some particulates collected in the screen and spray flushing removed it.

As for your grounds over the edge of the basket, I do think that's one of the reasons the pre-soak feature is there.   But I'm also possibly the last to figure out it can make a big taste difference as well.  I brew a partial pot on a daily basis, and have left the pre-soak time at one setting, using grind and temp to adjust the taste.   But now that my flow rate is so much faster I was getting a bit thinner tasting brew.  So I tried upping the pre-soak to see if it would get richer.  I went from 1:45 to 2:45 and it really produced a big improvement in the cup.  As much as a degree or two temp change.   A whole other variable to focus on tweaking.  Yet another reason the Brazen is unrivaled in user configurable drip brewers.

Edit: I had another thought about your grinds over the top issue.  It may be as simple as something blocking the basket drain hole.  Perhaps some grounds that got around the filter?  Verifying it's clean and clear seems worth the effort.
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