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jakeyz
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Posted Fri Dec 28, 2012, 2:42pm
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Hi.. I really need some help trying to find a grinder suitable for Turkish coffee. I bought my mother a Christmas gift since she needed a new grinder and I purchased the Bodum Bistro which cost me about $100. She is quite particular about her coffee and she needs something that can produce extra fine grinds.

The Bodum unfortunately did not make the cut. The grinds were fine.. but not extra fine. By hand you can feel the slight difference between her old machine and the new one.

Can someone please recommend something in the price range of $100 or so that can produce extra fine grinds suitable for Turkish coffee??
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Posted Fri Dec 28, 2012, 9:42pm
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Have you considered buying a manual grinder rather than an electric one? i'm not entirely sure, but i don't think you can find an electric grinder capable of doing an ultra fine turkish grind for less than 100$, i could be wrong though, but if using a bit of force isn't much of an issue, i suggest you check the Sözen brand Turkish hand grinders, i bought mine for around 30$+shipping from www.turkishmill.com
They're incredibly well made.






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Posted Wed Jan 30, 2013, 9:11pm
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I agree with the poster above me. Buy a Turk handmill. I have a Zass.

It's worth the effort. I've never had a bad cup out of it.
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Posted Wed Jan 30, 2013, 9:38pm
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Thank you for the replies however I need an electric one.  She drinks a lot of coffee and my dad too.  And they are both very busy people.  We have a mill which you mentioned already as well,  but want something automated.

I have tried 3 different grinders,  one specifically said it could grind suitable for turkish coffee but it did not pass the test

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Posted Thu Jan 31, 2013, 9:04am
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Hmm, I don't know. I've always ground by hand because I think the cup is completely different even from an electric grinder. Maybe it's the labor. "I worked for it."

If you do find one that grinds that fine would you post it here? I'm curious to see who gets it right.
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Posted Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:28am
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I think I've seen a whirly blade coffee/spice grinder recommended before - it was specifically said that this is only form of coffee that these grinders are good for.

Just had a quick look - it's the Sweet Maria's page for the Bodum Bistro blade mill (not the more expensive Bodum Bistro burr mill).  Certainly my Bistro Burr can't grind fine enough for espresso, so it definitely can't get coarse enough for Turkish.
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Posted Fri Feb 1, 2013, 5:05pm
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I've had a zassenhaus hand-crank turkish grinder that was excellent.  I dunno, the process of brewing turkish coffee takes some time already.  I think the time to grind by hand was something like 60 seconds for me so didn't add much time onto a brewing process that took 5 minutes or so already.

My last grinder was a commercial grade espresso grinder and I remember having issues producing a good turkish grind with it.  You might try a Baratza grinder but I don't think you can get an adequate turkish grind with a cheap burr grinder and certainly can't get a good powdery grind with any blade grinder.
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Posted Sat Feb 2, 2013, 9:01am
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Pfunk Said:

My last grinder was a commercial grade espresso grinder and I remember having issues producing a good turkish grind with it.  You might try a Baratza grinder but I don't think you can get an adequate turkish grind with a cheap burr grinder and certainly can't get a good powdery grind with any blade grinder.

Posted February 1, 2013 link

Not really.. My mother has been using a cheap $20 Hamilton Beach blade grinder for the longest time that grinds to a fine powder. The problem is she has to sit there and hold the button down while she would rather it be automated. She purchased a new Hamilton Beach blade grinder however the grind turned out coarse. The only difference that she sees between the two is that the newer model has blades that sit higher up then the other.

My other family members do use the manual hand mills and they also feel they are always better and that the "working for it" makes it taste better.. I think that the action/friction of the blades can cause some difference in taste possibly but I have never had a problem with her coffee from the machine grinder.

Anyway, I am planning to stop by a specialized coffee store here in the city sometime and talk to them and see what they say. I see they adverise some machines but they are all in the $200-300 range. I will report back.
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Posted Sat Feb 2, 2013, 11:34pm
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Well.. like i said earlier, you won't find an electrical grinder capable of grinding for real turkish grind for less than 100$.. however for 230$ turkishcoffeeworld sells a specifically calibrated Baratza Virtuoso for turkish coffee.

Mustafa Arat, (turkishcoffeeworld owner) is a pretty nice and helpful guy, i'd contact him first about it.

Turkish Coffee World: Baratza Virtuoso Grinder calibrated for Turkish coffee grind

I seriously doubt you can grind a proper turkish powder grind with a blade grinder, they're incredibly inconsistent.

I was wondering, if your parents are in such a hurry most of the time, have they considered buying commercial pre-ground turkish blends? i'm all for freshness, and i can attest that it does make a huge difference in turkish coffee as with every single brewing method, but to be fair, i've tried commercial turkish coffee pre-ground blends of brands commonly drunk in the middle east (mehmet efendi, najjar, maatouk, etc) and they produce tasty turkish coffee cups, like what you'd get in most middle eastern/balkan households, and if your parents like to sweeten their turkish coffee, the difference between one or the other is even less noticeable.
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