RoyceRuiz Senior Member Joined: 31 Mar 2012 Posts: 52 Location: Hollister, CA Expertise: I live coffee
Posted Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:49am Subject: Re: Which Bunn?
DreadManWalkin Said:
Royce,
It usually takes about 4 minutes for a batch to brew, regular 12 cup pot about 60 ounces. I usually use 5 scoops of beans, which works out to 1.5 ounces(43g), that I grind on my Mr Coffee grinder model IDS77. I have been grinding it on Medium grind for 12 cup up until today when i tried the fine grind setting as a test. Today's coffee had more flavor but something is still not there. Doing the math, I come up w 5.73 grams per 8 ounce cup, which is what I used on my Mr Coffee JWX27KV on the strong setting for the same volume. It took my old coffee maker 20 minutes to finish, which includes heating that water. I never really thought to time that unit once I could hear the water start flushing. I haven't tested my Bunn maker to see what the actual temperature of the water coming out is. Then again, I really don't know what the best temp should be, my cup of coffee is hot but could probably be hotter as far as drinking purposes. I figure that will be my next test, brew temperature. Am I just missing flavor from the oils? I ponder....... Matt
Temp (before water hits the coffee should be about 92 to 97C, or about 192F to 204F. Coffee to water should be about 14 grams per 8 oz cup (this is probably your biggest obstacle to getting the result you want). Brew time should be about 3-4 minutes (any more than 4 minutes tends to over extract the coffee and get bitter, "strong coffee" doesn't need to be bitter). Two things you may not want to hear. 1) your coffee crusher is not good for coffee (better to use it for spices). You really need a true burr grinder. Cheapest electric choice is a Baratza Encore (about $120 refurbished from Baratza). If that is too expensive you can get a Hario Skerton hand grinder for about $35 (but this requires a little elbow grease). 2) The coffee beans you buy need to be roasted no more than 2 weeks before you use them. This rules out supermarket coffee (even whole foods type stores). What coffee (brand and roast) are you currently buying? Where do you buy it? how much do you buy at a time? How do you store it?
Posted Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:53am Subject: Re: Which Bunn?
Coffee being fresh roasted doesn't entirely rule out all Wholefoods type stores - my local Wholefoods roasts in store, and at least half of the coffee in the bins is roasted that day. But I don't particularly like the coffees they do roast - tends towards darker roasts and darker blends, and I think the roaster is of the preprogrammed type, so the staff don't have a lot of training in roasting. They also have a number of bagged coffees from localish roasters (e.g. George Howell) that are sometimes within a couple of weeks post roast, although they seem to keep them on the shelves for about 3 months.
RoyceRuiz Senior Member Joined: 31 Mar 2012 Posts: 52 Location: Hollister, CA Expertise: I live coffee
Posted Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:59am Subject: Re: Which Bunn?
dyqik Said:
Coffee being fresh roasted doesn't entirely rule out all Wholefoods type stores - my local Wholefoods roasts in store, and at least half of the coffee in the bins is roasted that day. But I don't particularly like the coffees they do roast - tends towards darker roasts and darker blends, and I think the roaster is of the preprogrammed type, so the staff don't have a lot of training in roasting. They also have a number of bagged coffees from localish roasters (e.g. George Howell) that are sometimes within a couple of weeks post roast, although they seem to keep them on the shelves for about 3 months.
While this is true, buying at whole foods seems to be out of his price range and choosing the right coffee at whole foods requires acquired discernment (something that Matt might not be ready for). Also, since whole foods varies from store to store it is very hard to make a recommendation. Thanks for the clarification.
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