calblacksmith Moderator Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 8,194 Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A. Expertise: I live coffee
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Posted Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:40am Subject: Re: Nestle Nesspresso
I'll buck the trend and talk about them!
Most here are into better quality coffee than any single serve machine can provide. That is not to say that single serve machines are junk, they are designed and made for a different segment of the coffee world than we are here.
There are lots of advantages to them for general consumers.
There is not pot of coffee boiling away and burning on the warming plate or going rancid due to age since brew.
The user of these machines can change the end beverage served per person so not everyone is required to drink the same thing.
They are easy to use and there is little mess and cleanup with them.
The down side is that the capsules are expensive.
I have stayed in Hotels that had them in the room and so I have used the Kureg (sp?) single cup low volume brewers. The coffee is passable but not great by our standards. It is good enough though that when I travel and stay in Hotels that have them, I do not use my "travel coffee kit" of grinder, electric kettle and pour over single drip maker or my Aeropress. I accept the lower quality of coffee from the machine in exchange for less time on my part and ease of use, exactly what the machine was designed to do.
I find that they tend to brew on the cold side but then that tends to help the brewing of the stale coffee in the capsules.
They are not my first, second or even third choice of a way to brew coffee but they are better than going to the corner green coffee shop where I KNOW I will not like what they serve, at a high price and the hassle of driving to them in the first place. YMMV!
EDIT: OH BTW, I have only use the straight coffee or decaf capsules, never any of the flavored ones so I can't help you there.
In real life, my name is Wayne P. Anything I post is personal opinion and is only worth as much as anyone else's personal opinion. YMMV!
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I have some very good friends who own one. When they tried coffee at my house for the first time, they were pretty gung ho about getting rid of it, but after they thought about it a bit, they decided to keep it. Their reasons were...time, cleanup, counter space, convenience. They still talk about moving into the world of real espresso, but so far aren't motivated enough.
...I have only use the straight coffee or decaf capsules, never any of the flavored ones so I can't help you there.
I've had several coffees at my friends' house (the ones above). It's decent, but not even anywhere resembling what I make at home (even when I had my Silvia).
Also, I think the Nespresso frother does a decent job with the milk. I've been thinking of getting one to have at work. In fact, when we all went away for the weekend together last summer, I brought good coffee, a grinder and a presspot, and my friends brought their Nespresso frother, and we had acceptable, drinkable poor man's "lattes and cappuccinos".
. Always remember the most important thing is what ends up in your cup!
MochaJoe Senior Member Joined: 31 Oct 2012 Posts: 66 Location: Omaha, NE Expertise: Just starting
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Posted Wed Dec 5, 2012, 9:15pm Subject: Re: Nestle Nesspresso
I actually own one and love it. It's my daily driver so to speak just because as of right now, it still takes me a while to go through the motions to use my Classic. When I get up to go to class in the morning, I put some milk in my areoccino (the auto milk warmer/frother it came with, amazing) pick my pod and brew into my Contigo travel mug. My milk gets nice and steamy and im out the door.
Does is taste as good as doing it the "right" way? Nah. Is it bad? Nope. Its more than passable. Much better than the shops around here can sell me, and even with the extraordinarily high cost of the coffee (srs, I did the math...like $50 a lb, my morning latte comes out at around $0.95 a piece.
The pods aren't flavored, they are just different roast strengths and varieties. Unless you get these special ones they make a few times a year.
So yea, I love mine but see myself using it less and less as I get better using my Classic.
JasonBrandtLewis Senior Member Joined: 9 Dec 2005 Posts: 6,571 Location: Berkeley, CA Expertise: I live coffee
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Posted Fri Dec 7, 2012, 8:50am Subject: Re: Nestlé Nespresso
To begin with, it's spelled Nespresso.
Secondly, this is a bit of a "mea culpa." Nespresso is better than I have previously stated on these pages.
I have a relative who has some sort of Nespresso machine -- who knows or cares what model it is -- and more different types of capsules than I ever knew existed. I recently stayed at his place for a few days, and it's the only coffee maker he has. I found that I liked the Indriya and Ristretto best -- of the 5-6 types I tried. (He had about 14 different kinds; who knew?)
Posted Mon Dec 10, 2012, 3:19pm Subject: Re: Nestle Nesspresso
As someone who roasts his own coffee, grinds it in a cafe-quality grinder, and brews espresso in a double-hx plumbed-in rotary machine (or sometimes drip coffee in a Technivorm), one would think there'd be no place for something like Nespresso for me.
Fact is, I have an old D120 Nespresso machine at my hangar office, as well I've advised friends and family to go Nespresso for most applications. The machines heat up in under two minutes, take up very little counter space, and seem to be quite reliable, requiring little maintenance. Shots are consistently good... not excellent, but good enough for most people on most days. They are often better than the corner coffee shop. There is no need to invest in a decent grinder or bother with hunting down fresh roasted beans. The Aeroccino makes a smooth microfoam silently and automatically, though not quite the consistency necessary for latte art.
When looking at monthly/annual cost on home espresso making, not only is there the cost of equipment and maintenance (and upgrade-itis!), but there are also things to consider such as frequently obtaining fresh-roasted beans, storing and using them, and the occasional sink-shot where you just don't have the grinder dialed in... and there are always some grounds lost to the counter. Coffee isn't cheap, and I try to make sure I meter my bean roasting so I don't have to throw out stale beans, but it does happen.
My friends have found the Nespresso, while not as inexpensive as whole-bean, solves a lot of the variables so they can consistently enjoy decent shots with minimal fuss. For them, the alternative is either the corner coffee shop (expensive and sometimes sub-par), or a basic pressurized portafilter machine from the local department store with a blade grinder and stale three-month-old coffee that was in an open bag in the fridge.
The Lungo (long shot) capsules make a decent cup of black coffee. I have guests comment on that, and it's easy to accommodate leaded vs. decaf, etc.
Now, back to roasting another batch of Sweet Maria's Monkey Java Espresso Blend... mmmm!
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