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Posted Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:18am
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As regards ratio, I confess to messing with the "recognized" formulas, depending on the bean...and machine... at hand.
As regards the BraZen, I go just a touch less than the recommended 60 grams for 1.25L. (55 grams ion average)

With my Bunn STX (which brews a bit more) I actually use more coffee per ml, as it dispenses water at a MUCH faster pace. I also tighten the grind.
So, I have to say that  brew ratio cannot be a 1 and done sort of calculation. Just my .03. (Figure adjusted for inflation)






EDIT: I salute those who have had success with their Braun machines. I had 2, 1 leaked. the other stopped working about 6 months post purchase.

 
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Posted Sat Dec 1, 2012, 8:39pm
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IMAWriter Said:

As regards ratio, I confess to messing with the "recognized" formulas, depending on the bean...and machine... at hand.
As regards the BraZen, I go just a touch less than the recommended 60 grams for 1.25L. (55 grams ion average)

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Did you mean 60g/l or 60g/1.25l?
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Posted Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:27pm
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60 grams per 1.25l. (the marking on the BraZen is 1.2..
I cheat and add to 1.25, as the water vessel I use has a 1.25 marking.
If I'm not mistaken, Joe recommends 60 grams as a starting place.
But as I said, I often go to 55 grams, and a longer presoak if i want to imitate a manual pour over for a full pot.

 
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Posted Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:33am
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redkiosk Said:

Speaking of Brauns', our old KF-600 10-cup made a pretty good cup. Purchased it in 2006 and used it everyday up to this past May when I got the Trifecta MB. My daughter has it at college now and it's still brewing up a storm. Take care!

Jim

Posted December 1, 2012 link

I like Braun coffee makers too - I don't have that many of them but they all still make a nice cup of coffee. Mine are all 2nd hand and most are pretty old so the durability is not a question for me.

Also, these brew a great cup using the 16:1 ratio even when using the Braun permanent gold filter which is dual labeled as a SwissGold filter too.

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Posted Sun Dec 2, 2012, 8:11am
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Eric,

The stainless steel one on the right is the KF-600 and that's about the same coffee ratio were were using. You are correct about the SwissGold filter too. I miss it when we have a group of people over. Even though I can make the same amount of coffee, in the same period of time with my Trifecta MB and three brew chambers, I'm a slave to the brewer when I'd rather be sitting at the table with my guests. Take care!

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Posted Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:18am
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Hello Everyone,

I'm new, this is my first post.  I grew tired of so-so coffee so when my latest mass marketed w/universal guts brewer started making luke warm coffee I decided NOT run out to my nearest retail store.  Many times, even back in the 70s, I'd stand there looking at all different makes/models thinking "aren't they all just the same on the inside?"  Nov 16 I googled "copper heating element" in coffee brewers and my search/research began.  First discovered Kevin Sinnott's CoffeeCompanion site---Nov 12 article (his current A List) on coffee makers: Technivorm, Bonavita, Behmor Brazen, Bodem Bistro and Bunn Phase Brew--very informative, good start for me here.  THEN I found CoffeeGeek and couldn't stop reading.  By 11pm, Sun Nov 18, I decided on the Bonavita (although no copper element), placed the order and my new brewer was in my kitchen ready to go on Wed, Nov 21.  Of course I'm interested in/curious to try other brewers (especially Brazen) but for now I'm very happy drinking some great coffees---trying out different single origins and so on.  Love this Bonavita---easy, quick, small footprint.  Due to the small footprint....  leaves room for the burr grinder I'm now thinking about AND so it goes.

Yes, I made a fairly quick decision but had to make a purchase and was NOT going to repeat history.  Also went to my local roaster for quality coffee, buying enough fresh ground for 3-4 days at a time WHICH has now created the desire to buy beans and grind myself.  Looking at Baratza Preciso..  then maybe a scale?  I know about the Esatto to combine w/grinder--it's 12" long so not sure about space.  Their most expensive grinder has the scale integrated, therefore the ultimate spacesaver BUT $$$.  Kitchen real estate can be $$$ when weighing space vs how much more you can do in that small space with THE right appliance--once that appliance occupies that space the value increases BUT so does productivity.

Thanks to all of you here for your honest input---a great help and joy!
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Posted Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:26am
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scales are really, really cheap.  A relatively small one would be all you would need for a pot of coffee  (maybe 3 X 4 X 1/2 inch).  Maybe $15.
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Posted Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:53am
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IMAWriter Said:

60 grams per 1.25l. (the marking on the BraZen is 1.2..
I cheat and add to 1.25, as the water vessel I use has a 1.25 marking.
If I'm not mistaken, Joe recommends 60 grams as a starting place.
But as I said, I often go to 55 grams, and a longer presoak if i want to imitate a manual pour over for a full pot.

Posted December 1, 2012 link

The BraZen manual recommends 60-70 g (ratios between 1:20 and 1:17 for a 1.2l pot).
I use a ratio of 1:19 which is about 63g/1.2l or 66g/1.25l.
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Posted Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:14am
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AnotherRob Said:

The BraZen manual recommends 60-70 g (ratios between 1:20 and 1:17 for a 1.2l pot).
I use a ratio of 1:19 which is about 63g/1.2l or 66g/1.25l.

Posted December 2, 2012 link

Rob, I've adjusted the ratio to the tastes of my family, who are the main consumers. My daughter prefers a less robust cup, same as my wife.
I enjoy using the BraZen, and have a morning cup. Later, I'm doing double shots.







Edit...this thread has drifted, but if Eric (the OP) is OK, then lets let it go where it goes!

 
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Posted Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:18am
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msboo Said:

Hello Everyone,

I'm new, this is my first post.

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Rebeccah, welcome to the CG Forums!

 
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