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Posted Mon Mar 24, 2014, 5:44pm
Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
 

Thanks, The_Coffee_Guy... appreciate your reply as well as comments from others here in regards to the Brazen brewer. Going to try finding a model more recently manufactured. One of Brazen's listed online retailers (in Connecticut) states "Includes latest carafe spout upgrade" so hope those brewers are more current so as to avoid other problems posted here on earlier made units.
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Posted Mon Mar 24, 2014, 7:52pm
Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
 

I'll weigh my grounds next time I try a full pot, but I think its less than 66g I am using... (based on a ~24 second grind in my Vario on 10. I know a 15 second grind on 7 gives me 29g for pourover). But let me confirm...
Yes, I usually grind coarser the fuller the pot (10 when trying full pot, 9 when doing 4 cups water). My pre-soak is 90 seconds. I'll try bumping it to a full 2 mins.

Thanks for the input.
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Posted Sat Mar 29, 2014, 9:00am
Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
 

1canuck2 -

Regarding pouring, try the tip and press method.  Tip the carafe all the way up with the top vertical or past vertical, with the spout over the cup, and then press the button.  Works for me, get no dribbles or drops outside the cup.

Also, I leave the top unlocked to reduce the chance of vacuum holding water in the tank.  But some puddles remain, which I think is just due to the design of the tank.  It's relatively flat so water around the edges stays and doesn't all drain toward the hole.  If you're seeing the hole still submerged after the end of brewing then something's not right.
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Posted Sun Apr 20, 2014, 11:21am
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Hi - First post here.

I've been watching this machine with interest but I'm concerned regarding the QA issues.  Have they been resolved?  I have great well water albeit a bit hard.  I've never had any major scaling issues with any of my machines though.

I'm at 5500' MSL so the hottest water I'll get is around 203F but it would be great to be able to dial that in to my liking.
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Posted Sun Apr 20, 2014, 2:16pm
Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
 

Welcome to the forum.

I have had my BraZen for a year now.  It is one of the older models, yet none of the problems have appeared on my machine.

The newer models will already by fitted with the upgraded pouring-spout for the carafe, so that would not be a problem for you.

One thing I particularly like is the pre-soak cycle which deals with the bloom (foam) in fresh roast coffee.  I have never yet had the filter 'run over' and make a mess on the counter and floor.

A word of caution I can give you:  The BraZen (and every other brewer on the market) works best with a full pot.  That way, you get the correct brewing time.  for this reason, I use the BraZen when I need a full 1.2 litre urn …but not for a single mug.  Right-sizing is important.

 
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Posted Sun Apr 20, 2014, 3:28pm
Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
 

I've had my Brazen for a few months now and, though I can't comment on long-term reliability, it's been absolutely excellent.
It also comes with a two year warranty.

I tend to use a long presoak time as I figure that partially replicates a steeping method (like a French Press). Also, I roast my own coffee and it's mostly 3-8 days old when I brew it.
I usually make 6 cups, occasionally 4 and it's done well.

Anyway, the feature set  is ideal.
The manual drip feature is great if you occasionally use something like a French Press or a Handy Brew.

Regarding temperature, I usually use it at 200. Occasionally, I've had a coffee that was a little too bright and I wanted more bitter, so I turned it up to 203 or 204.
I wouldn't miss it if I couldn't go past 203.

I've had no problems with dripping or anything else.
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Posted Sun Apr 20, 2014, 4:06pm
Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
 

JKalpin Said:

Welcome to the forum.

I have had my BraZen for a year now.  It is one of the older models, yet none of the problems have appeared on my machine.

The newer models will already by fitted with the upgraded pouring-spout for the carafe, so that would not be a problem for you.

One thing I particularly like is the pre-soak cycle which deals with the bloom (foam) in fresh roast coffee.  I have never yet had the filter 'run over' and make a mess on the counter and floor.

A word of caution I can give you:  The BraZen (and every other brewer on the market) works best with a full pot.  That way, you get the correct brewing time.  for this reason, I use the BraZen when I need a full 1.2 litre urn …but not for a single mug.  Right-sizing is important.

Posted April 20, 2014 link

Actually my experience is different. I have mine dialed in for 16 fl oz mugs, using 26 gms coffee, relatively finely ground (18 on the new Virtuoso.) Coffee is great. Makes it worth getting up in the morning. I think the Brazen will give you a great cup (after experimentation) no matter the brew size.

As far as the quality of the units, the complaints on this forum seem to have died down. I still would recommend using filtered/ softened water. A fresh Brita may be what you need.
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Posted Fri Apr 25, 2014, 4:18pm
Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
 

The Brazen Plus is coming soon, but here is a type of pot that Behmor will be selling for the Brazen for those who want it.  

I think that brewing tea will also be a possibility with it.  The exact size might be different, according to Joe.

The new valve and filter look to be more robust than the originals.

Prof: Brazen with optional carafe 2.jpg
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Posted Fri Apr 25, 2014, 4:31pm
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Will be interesting to see the differences
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Posted Fri Apr 25, 2014, 6:13pm
Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
 

My BraZen chugging' along, singing' a song. Well, making great coffee!
No issues here either. I actually prefer a shorter pre-soak once my coffee is past the 4 day mark, usually about 45 seconds, otherwise the brew strength is not quite where I like it.
I probably use less grind then most here, 0n average 58 grams for the 1.2l pot. I figure maybe 30 grams of water remain, thus not 60 grams of coffee. Probably a bit geeky there. LOL

It's a great brewer.

 
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