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frank828
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Posted Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:54am
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CraigA Said:

Frank, you could just brew a pot with some old coffee that you don't care about & then just dump it out. That should pull away any offending odor..

Posted October 7, 2012 link

craig, found an unlabeled old mason jar of some beans and i just hit start on a 56gram batch...now i remember why im on the search for a motorized drip grinder.  hand grinding is not fun for this much coffee.  :P


tahoejoe Said:

frankk

send us an email and we can send you another..

Posted October 8, 2012 link

thanks Joe, i'm gonna keep trying to get this one to work for me.  i think it's getting progressively better with each air dry.  did two air dries so far and im only getting a slight smell now.  If i cant get this working for me, i'll let you guys know.


GVDub Said:

Brewed a pot of the the Worka again this morning and it was so good i just ordered 10 lbs of the greens from Klatch. This brewer is going to sell a lot of premium coffee for folks.

Posted October 8, 2012 link

George, was the Worka from this season or last?  I still have about 1-2lbs of last season's and i remember it was ridiculously blueberry'ish.
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GVDub
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Drip: Behmor Brazen, Abid Clever
Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Mon Oct 8, 2012, 12:22pm
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Frank - It's what Mike's selling as greens from the Klatch website right now, so my guess is this season, not last. I'm thinking it's probably the same crop as the Worka that Conservatory of Coffee supplied for the roasting Charrette, which was pretty spectacular with a little green apple note to go along with the berries.

Speaking of drip grinders, if you've got the counterspace, there's a guy on CL who's been trying to sell a Grindmaster 100 for pretty cheap. The 100 is fairly compact as such things go (probably about the same size as the BraZen, overall) and judging by how well the LPG I got from Russell does with the brewer, you could probably do worse.
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frank828
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Posted Mon Oct 8, 2012, 12:31pm
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luckily i have a separate coffee stainless counter thing that i have all my coffee gear on so i should have plenty of space.  

i have my heart set on a ditting kr1203 or similar but i havent found the right deal for one just yet.  i see them on CL every once in a while and i'm hoping that i'll be able to find one soon.  from your glowing review on the bunn LPG, i've added that to my list of possibilities along with the bunn g9 that Wayne uses.    

i havent looked at grindmasters mainly because i havent read any feedback about them...i wonder how they stack up to bunn, ditting and mahlkonig.
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Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Mon Oct 8, 2012, 1:02pm
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Since Grindmaster merged with Cecilware, if you're familiar with the Cecilware Venezia line of espresso machines, the grinders are probably equivalent quality. I know that they rebadge the HeyCafe Mazzer clone for their espresso grinder, and that's gotten decent (though not totally stellar) reviews.

Out in the wild of professional food service, the Bunn to Grindmaster ratio in diners and restaurants seems to be about 2:1 or so.

I'm needing to start thinking cart for my coffee setup, just to maintain spousal harmony. First, though, I need to get the Ellimatic back up and running. No espresso at home is getting difficult.
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Posted Mon Oct 8, 2012, 5:59pm
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Canadian folks:  Smico on the GCBC site is putting a Brazen on a traveling road show. (Registration required). Needs 9 8 other Northerners to toss in a $20 and take a chance on the random draw for the win.  Each person gets it for a week:   Traveling road show, north of the 49th.  There's already a GCBC traveling-road-show Brazen circulating south of the 49th.

 
"On the trail for the goats' grail..."

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brazen1
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Posted Tue Oct 9, 2012, 4:06pm
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I received my new HARIO drip decanter today to try with the Brazen:

Click Here (prima-coffee.com)

This is an 02 sized Hario filter holder that fits down into a glass decanter, like a Chemex but with a Hario filter. It measures just under 8 inches tall, so it fits perfectly under the BraZen spray head (coffee basket removed) with room for the filter to stick up above the decanter. The bottom of the decanter is slightly smaller than the recessed portion of the BraZen base, so you do have to roughly center it. The diameter at the top is wide enough to collect all the water from the Brazen.

I put 16 ounces of water in the BraZen. 24 grams of fresh ground Willoughby's roasted coffee in a Hario filter and hit START. 1:30 presoak, 203 degrees brew temp. It worked perfectly. Presoak, then the first shot of water, which had not complete dripped through when the second shot came. This one came up close to the top of the filter holder with maybe a half inch to spare. Third shot of water was smaller and pretty much finished it off. Let it drip through and I ended up with 14.5 ounces of brewed coffee.

Very good, smooth coffee. Not quite as strong, with the same coffee to water ratio, as larger batches I've been brewing in the Brazen, but definitely a workable way to auto-brew one travel mug of coffee in the Brazen. It might be dicey on larger brews, but the standard Brazen works perfectly for 20 ounces or more of water, so that's a moot issue. This is just a way to get a deeper bed of grounds for single serve brewing.

Is it better than auto-brewing the same amount with the Brazen basket? I don't know. I guess I'll have to compare it sometime.

The only snag: the one piece glass decanter ended up being just a bit too tall to fit my compact microwave without tilting it a bit going thru the door. No big deal. But, a 2-piece 02 decanter and filter would be better if this is an issue.
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Posted Tue Oct 9, 2012, 4:18pm
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It's an invasion......
of the out-of-this world coffee brewers...

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Archatie
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Posted Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:08pm
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I found this forum while researching for a new coffee maker. Pre-ordered my Brazen and anxiously waited for the delivery. Arrived today and went through the instruction and even checked Youtube. The water heated to the set temperature and the pre-soak went well as well. Calibrated the machine and tried to run a full cycle to clean the machine, Not a drop of water  fell into the basket. Bone dry. Tried to run it again with a paper filter and again the filter did not even have a wet spot. I NEED HELP TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM
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brazen1
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Posted Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:38pm
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When you hit START, did the water heat and the temperature display start increasing? When it got to your brew temperature, did the display switch to PRE-SOAK and start counting down?

If not, you might not have actually gotten it to start. It often takes hitting the START button twice. Once to wake it up and once to make the water temp appear and start increasing.

If all of that happened, the water got hot, PRESOAK appeared in the disply, and no water came out, then Joe is going to have to answer! That would suggest that the microprocessor is not opening the valve and you'll probably need a replacement machine (unless there is some kind of easy fix).
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Archatie
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Posted Wed Oct 10, 2012, 12:26am
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The water  reached the temperature I set it at and the pre-soak started the countdown then the brew started and ended without a drop of water in the basket.  I wonder how long I will have to wait again for a good cup of coffee.
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