Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012, 6:22pm Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
BraZen arrived today in good form. Unpacked and calibrated this evening. I'm ready for liftoff in the morning (T minus 9 hours, 30 minutes and counting). I decided I'd spend the rest of my evening reading all these wise posts from those of you who are blazing the trail for the rest of us. It's helping me as I contemplate the morning settings for my 3-day old Sulawesi.
At this point I think I have my game plan for the morning, but the one thing this well-tested group has not commented on for the brew - did you wear your black "I <Heart> My Behmor" t-shirt when you cranked it up for the test run? I'm thinking it's like launching a great ship with that bottle of good champagne across the bow. Wearing "the colors" will be good juju - a good-luck start to what should be the beginning of a great (and long) relationship! Thanks Joe.
IMAWriter Senior Member Joined: 4 Jul 2002 Posts: 5,462 Location: Brentwood, TN Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: Nothing at the moment Grinder: Vario-W,Preciso-Esatto/KyM... Vac Pot: Adcraft SS, Yama 8 cup Drip: Brazen.Chemex, Hario, Clever... Roaster: Behmor 1600, CO/UFO combo
Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012, 6:54pm Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
Tourman Said:
BraZen arrived today in good form. Unpacked and calibrated this evening. I'm ready for liftoff in the morning (T minus 9 hours, 30 minutes and counting). I decided I'd spend the rest of my evening reading all these wise posts from those of you who are blazing the trail for the rest of us. It's helping me as I contemplate the morning settings for my 3-day old Sulawesi.
At this point I think I have my game plan for the morning, but the one thing this well-tested group has not commented on for the brew - did you wear your black "I <Heart> My Behmor" t-shirt when you cranked it up for the test run? I'm thinking it's like launching a great ship with that bottle of good champagne across the bow. Wearing "the colors" will be good juju - a good-luck start to what should be the beginning of a great (and long) relationship! Thanks Joe.
Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012, 8:01pm Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
Hey Rob - Have no fear - I'm plenty relaxed here. Just having fun with it all! Since I got my first free t-shirt when I bought my first new Harley, I get a kick out of free shirts with purchases. That said, if I like the product I'm more than willing to advertise with the shirts. Often good conversation starters at the gym. Already convinced one fellow to start roasting on his own after he saw my Burman's bean t-shirt. I've been there w/the kids as well. The shirts are worn out and gone, but I'm still left with some college bills to pay! At least I'm drinking great coffee while I write the checks...and it will be even better in the morning with the BraZen.
brazen1 Senior Member Joined: 29 Sep 2012 Posts: 39 Location: New England Expertise: Just starting
Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012, 8:15pm Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
IMAWriter Said:
However, i find the taste and aroma from the normal (non manual) a 600ml brew cycle plenty good, and comparable to my manual pour over....and less hassle. I'd say, if the the carafe was any lower/smaller, there might be a problem with the spray pattern slightly overshooting the grind.
I'm thinking the only reason to bother with a cone filter alternative is when you want to brew less than 20 ounces and need a deeper bed of grounds than you can get with the flat basket. Your HARIO rig with say 11 ounces of water in the reservoir to brew 10 ounces of coffee in the carafe would be a "one-mug" option. I'd like to try that with just the normal Brazen cycle and not even bother with the manual pour. 5 ounces of water every 30 seconds shouldn't be too far off the mark.
Does the HARIO flow that much faster than a Melitta? Or is the paper filter the determining factor more than the size of the hole in the drip cone?
IMAWriter Senior Member Joined: 4 Jul 2002 Posts: 5,462 Location: Brentwood, TN Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: Nothing at the moment Grinder: Vario-W,Preciso-Esatto/KyM... Vac Pot: Adcraft SS, Yama 8 cup Drip: Brazen.Chemex, Hario, Clever... Roaster: Behmor 1600, CO/UFO combo
Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012, 8:18pm Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
brazen1 Said:
Thanks.
I'm thinking the only reason to bother with a cone filter alternative is when you want to brew less than 20 ounces and need a deeper bed of grounds than you can get with the flat basket. Your HARIO rig with say 11 ounces of water in the reservoir to brew 10 ounces of coffee in the carafe would be a "one-mug" option. I'd like to try that with just the normal Brazen cycle and not even bother with the manual pour. 5 ounces of water every 30 seconds shouldn't be too far off the mark.
Does the HARIO flow that much faster than a Melitta? Or is the paper filter the determining factor more than the size of the hole in the drip cone?
tahoejoe Senior Member Joined: 9 Sep 2003 Posts: 557 Location: San Diego/ Incline Village Nv. Expertise: I live coffee
Grinder: Solis Maestro Drip: Behmor Brazen Brew System Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012, 8:46pm Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
Tourman Said:
BraZen arrived today in good form. Unpacked and calibrated this evening. I'm ready for liftoff in the morning (T minus 9 hours, 30 minutes and counting). I decided I'd spend the rest of my evening reading all these wise posts from those of you who are blazing the trail for the rest of us. It's helping me as I contemplate the morning settings for my 3-day old Sulawesi.
At this point I think I have my game plan for the morning, but the one thing this well-tested group has not commented on for the brew - did you wear your black "I <Heart> My Behmor" t-shirt when you cranked it up for the test run? I'm thinking it's like launching a great ship with that bottle of good champagne across the bow. Wearing "the colors" will be good juju - a good-luck start to what should be the beginning of a great (and long) relationship! Thanks Joe.
3 Day old-- recommend 1:20-1:30 minimum pre-soak (I've never had an issue of bloom w/ those times at 3 days) and watch the grind size if using the gold filter..
Then experiment with grind sizes and temps. I started at 202 and at times 203 to 204. I know one expert cupper who likes 205 setting.. That's the beauty of the BraZen..
And I love the wearing of the colors and hope you enjoy the ride
REMINDER: Never leave the roaster unattended when in use !! And remember to use our Rosetta Stone tip PART V PARAGRAPH 3.. it works !!!
kendog1967 Senior Member Joined: 2 Oct 2012 Posts: 1 Location: Akron Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012, 9:38pm Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
Hello everyone. I have been watching this thread for a while now. This one and a couple others. I love a good cup of coffee and with that being said these good "cups of coffee" happen outside of my home. I would like to change that. This machine looks to be the answer but I am left wondering if it is right for me.
I am coming from about 9-10 years of using a Bunn coffee maker. One lasted about 6 years and sprung a leak and was trashed. Current Bunn lasted about 4 and is demonstrating the same leaking issue. I do grind my own beans using a Capresso Infinity Conical Burr Grinder. Certainly not top of the line but it does a good job. Usually I get the beans at Sams Club (Members Mark). Occasionally from a local grocer, 8 o'clock bean, etc.
Bottom line is will I get/taste this machines true potential with what I am working with? Or am I buying a Ferrari to deliver pizzas? Total overkill in other words. I was also looking at a Bonavita which looks like a great machine but when I came across this Behmor Brazen Brewer it looked like the bees knees and became the one I wanted. Thank you for any insight or recommendations. Also if this is the wrong place to ask such a question please move this to an appropriate area. Again, thanks.
Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012, 9:51pm Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
Ken – the BraZen will certainly maximize what you can get out of what you have. Your Capresso Infinity will do a decent job of grinding for drip, certainly better than any whirly-blade bean smasher would do. While the beans you're currently getting probably aren't the freshest, you'll still be able to get more flavor out of them with the time and temperature options you have available on the BraZen.
A warning, though — sometimes a better brewer can start revealing flaws in the beans that you're using and you start to want something better, more balanced, and more flavorful. It can be a slippery slope, leading to mail-order coffee and then <gasp> home-roasting. Just sayin'.
brazen1 Senior Member Joined: 29 Sep 2012 Posts: 39 Location: New England Expertise: Just starting
Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:04pm Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
Kendog:
I think you'll be fine with your grinder and beans with the BraZen. It's just a drip coffee maker -- just one that actually works properly. I was seriously considering a BUNN HT Phase Brew, but it appears to be plagued by an attempt to open the drip value mechanically based on a piece of metal bending when the right temp is reached. The BraZen does it the right way with a temp sensor and a microprocessor controlled valve.
All of the adjustment potential for the BraZen is fun and all, but I wouldn't let that overshadow the fact that it's just a good solid drip brewer. I I love the fact that the water pours in the top, gets heated in the stainless steel top (just like a pot on the stove) and then them dumps straight out a hole in the bottom of the top onto the coffee. Couldn't be simpler. And, it can actually be cleaned every once in a while to keep the thing in tip-top shape for years.
I'm brewing Dunkin Donuts whole beans in mine right now. It's making a fantastic cup of coffee. I doubt the grind matters very much with a paper filter drip brewer. There's a lot of lattitude there.
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PS: I did back to back brews with 60 grams of DD versus 56 grams. I did end up preferring the 60 grams.
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