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Posted Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:10am
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With my luck I'll get the kosher salt measurement right with my Encore grinder and put the salt in the basket by accident
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Posted Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:18am
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IMAWriter Said:

In the past, brewers like my BunnSTX required a slightly finer than "commercial drip" grind, as the brew time is VERY fast...too fast IMO, 4 minutes for 1.75 liters! (the water is at 200f in the tank, so no time is needed to heat water)

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Well my Bunn Thermofresh BTX-B is rated to do a full brew in 3 minutes (50oz), not 4 Rob., but that may de different than yours. The commercial Bunns ( I have several VPR's VPR-APS's) are rated to do a full US gallon (64oz) brew in 4 minutes.

 
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Posted Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:21am
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Posted Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:27am
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I can hardly wait to get mine!!

 
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Posted Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:34am
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CraigA Said:

Well my Bunn Thermofresh BTX-B is rated to do a full brew in 3 minutes (50oz), not 4 Rob., but that may de different than yours. The commercial Bunns ( I have several VPR's VPR-APS's) are rated to do a full US gallon (64oz) brew in 4 minutes.

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):-0   if you need coffee that quickly, just chew a mouthful of beans!  ;-)

 
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Posted Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:39am
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CraigA Said:

Well my Bunn Thermofresh BTX-B is rated to do a full brew in 3 minutes (50oz), not 4 Rob., but that may de different than yours. The commercial Bunns ( I have several VPR's VPR-APS's) are rated to do a full US gallon (64oz) brew in 4 minutes.

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Well, i was guess-timating.
I use the 3 hole sprayer, which slows things down a bit.
Sheesh, what nitpicker! LOL

My POINT was that I use a finer grind to slow things down a bit, as well as saving precious coffee.
Old habits die hard. ;>D

 
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Posted Mon Oct 1, 2012, 12:50pm
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I'm finding the Bunn LPG I picked up from the BST forum to be pretty much a perfect match for the Brazen. After a couple of weeks of use, brewing my homeroast blend of Brazilian pulp natural, Guatemalan, and Sumatran, I've settled on 204 as optimum for the blend as currently roasted (Brazil and Guat on the light side of Full City and Sumatran FC+). The LPG's uni-modal grind (well, it's still bi-modal, only much lighter on the fines than an espresso grinder) is designed for drip and I'm getting uniformly excellent results.

Haven't made less than a full 1.2L pot yet (heck, one full pot barely gets me and my wife out the door in the morning), but plan on doing some experimentation over the coming weekend with manual brewing in my CCD, partial pots, dialing in grind on one of the hand grinders for small brews of specialty stuff, etc.
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Posted Mon Oct 1, 2012, 12:55pm
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IMAWriter Said:

I use the 3 hole sprayer, which slows things down a bit.

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Yes me too back a few years when I used it (then went on to my commercial VPR-APS), & you may remember the threads/posts on all that, Tim Horton's 3 hole sprayhead versus the stock 4 holer, different makes/styles of filter papers, etc..

Sheesh, what nitpicker! LOL

No, not nitpicking., just stating the facts as I know them.

My POINT was that I use a finer grind to slow things down a bit, as well as saving precious coffee.
Old habits die hard. ;>D

Yes I get it Rob..

 
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Posted Mon Oct 1, 2012, 3:04pm
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OK, I just made a full 40 ounce pot. I left the grind the same (medium fine, 4 on the VARIO, still working on the DD beans) and bumped the weight up to 60 grams. I also increased the presoak to 2 minutes.

I don't think the extra presoak made any difference. When I pulled the brew basket at the one minute mark, the grounds hadn't come up even close to the top of the filter.

The brew cycle (after the 2 minute presoak) took right at 4 minutes. It appears that, when the Brazen shut off at the end of the brew cycle, essentially all of the water had already dripped from the grounds to the carafe.

No problem with grounds rising too high. They had been up close to the top of the filter at some point during the brew cycle, but had not actually reached the top. After four pots now, noting has hit the spray head or overflowed the filter into the basket.

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BTW, I can't say that I notice any particular difference in the brew with 56 grams versus 60 grams. Maybe the 60 gram pot is just slightly stronger, but not a big deal one way or another. I'd be happy drinking it either way. At 60 grams, the coffee is definitely stronger than you get from the same beans at Dunkin Donuts. It's getting up into borderline Starbucks territory. The brewed coffee is way better than the very best cup from Dunkin Donuts -- which can vary quite bit, I guess depending on how clean their Bunns are and how good their water is.

56 grams is 8 pots per pound of coffee. 60 grams is 7.5 pots per pound of coffee. 65 grams is 8 pots per pound.
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Posted Mon Oct 1, 2012, 3:10pm
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brazen1 Said:

I don't think the extra presoak made any difference. When I pulled the brew basket at the one minute mark, the grounds hadn't come up even close to the top of the filter.

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Odds are that you get close to zero bloom on the DD beans, since they're likely completely staled by the time you get them, so a lengthy presoak isn't going to make much difference.
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