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badmajon
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Posted Mon Aug 27, 2012, 5:14am
Subject: Best coffee brewer for two
 

I've been making coffee for my wife and I with a 12 cup bialetti moka express, which makes inferior coffee to the 3 cup version. I originally bought the 3 cup when I was living away from home, and I figured the 12 cup would make the same coffee, but bigger- it doesn't. So, I'm planning on getting rid of it and trying something else.

We both like well balanced coffees with lots of body, and roast our own beans for that flavor. We usually drink about 16 oz of coffee between the two of us on a given morning over about 30-45 minutes. That's four 4oz cups.

I was thinking about a chemex, but the coffee would probably get cold. The nice thing about the bialetti is that its made of metal, so I can put a towel over it once I take it off the stove, and it keeps the coffee warm.

Drip brewers just don't cut the mustard for us. No flavor, weak body, yuck. Of course it would be nice to have a $1000 espresso maker and just pull shots on the fly, but we don't have $1000 to spend on a machine.

Pourover and vaccum carafe maybe? Any ideas would be appreciated.
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Posted Mon Aug 27, 2012, 7:16am
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My vote goes for French press or press pot.  Cheap, easy to use,with lots of body. You havent mentioned which grinder you have but i would point out that many grinders start producing lots of unwanted fines when opened up to the extent needed for press.  I would recommend a grinder that does well in the coarse range. It seems that the new (as of last January) burrs in the baratza Virtuoso fits the bill. I say "seems to" because I am not aware of any formal taste test that bears this out.  But in the words of Mark Prince "In truth, the Preciso offers the same kind of fines control that $1500, $2000 high end commercial grinders provide, and then some." As of earlier this year the virtuoso has the same burrs as the Preciso.   The Detailed review can be seen here   http://www.coffeegeek.com/proreviews/quickshot/baratzavirtGuosopreciso/details
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Posted Mon Aug 27, 2012, 11:00am
Subject: Re: Best coffee brewer for two
 

badmajon Said:

We both like well balanced coffees with lots of body, and roast our own beans for that flavor. We usually drink about 16 oz of coffee between the two of us on a given morning over about 30-45 minutes. That's four 4oz cups.

I was thinking about a chemex, but the coffee would probably get cold. The nice thing about the bialetti is that its made of metal, so I can put a towel over it once I take it off the stove, and it keeps the coffee warm.

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I personally use a chemex for two people but i dont let it sit for 30-45 minutes before drinking.   In this case, maybe transfer the coffee to a thermos or something similar?

Maybe consider a Behmor Brazen when they are available.  It's an automatic machine but with all the options on it, it SHOULD be able to be as good if not better than many of the manual brewers out there.
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Posted Mon Aug 27, 2012, 3:03pm
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Bob_M Said:

My vote goes for French press or press pot.  Cheap, easy to use,with lots of body. You havent mentioned which grinder you have but i would point out that many grinders start producing lots of unwanted fines when opened up to the extent needed for press.  I would recommend a grinder that does well in the coarse range. It seems that the new (as of last January) burrs in the baratza Virtuoso fits the bill. I say "seems to" because I am not aware of any formal taste test that bears this out.  But in the words of Mark Prince "In truth, the Preciso offers the same kind of fines control that $1500, $2000 high end commercial grinders provide, and then some." As of earlier this year the virtuoso has the same burrs as the Preciso.   The Detailed review can be seen here   Click Here (www.coffeegeek.com)

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+1.  French press.  Lots of body.  You can purchase insulated ones that will hold in heat.
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VernS
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Posted Mon Aug 27, 2012, 7:20pm
Subject: Re: Best coffee brewer for two
 

The French press is also my favorite brewer for two and I still often use my Bodum. However for your specific application I would suggest the one litre Espro press.

The two layers of ultra fine filtering do a surprisingly good job of isolating the ground coffee from the finished coffee brew and I concur with the Espro description that the coffee is still very good up to an hour after pressing. This surprised me at first but it does make some sense if you remember that the most common concern with the Espro press has been the difficulty in accessing the coffee below and outside the filter. If you cannot pour the coffee in bottom out it is not surprising that it has little negative effect on the coffee above the filter.

If you preheat the Espro with a little water, half a pot will still be quite hot after an hour since the construction is double walled stainless steel with a vacuum between the walls.

You mentioned the possible consideration of a vacuum pot. I have never used one, but apparently part of the reason for Espro filtering the coffee brew both below the surface and at the surface is to combine the advantages and eliminate the concerns of both the vacuum pot and normal French press.

I enjoy all the body with the minimal amount of fines that the Espro provides, but if you prefer to highlight some of the delicate flavors of some coffees you might prefer a pour over. Have fun investigating and let us know how you make out.
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Posted Mon Aug 27, 2012, 8:24pm
Subject: Re: Best coffee brewer for two
 

All things considered, the french press is the best all around brewer for me.  But every brewing method produces a different cup.  Press is rich but there's a silt with it too. Frank's mention of the brazen is a solid option. Most drip brewers produce bad coffee due to improper and wildly varying temp management but also poor saturation and improper brew times.  The brazen is different and the coffee I've had from it was phenomenal. Body of a press but clean like a vac pot or pour over.  Vac pot is another option.  Not quite as much body as a press but a cleaner cup. Aero press makes an interesting cup. I see it more of a single cup brewer but its so fast and easy that two cups in a row is a breeze.
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Posted Mon Aug 27, 2012, 10:21pm
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Joel_B Said:

The brazen is different and the coffee I've had from it was phenomenal.

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Where did you have/try out the coffee from a Brazen Joel?, from the last SCAA trade show & Joe Behm had one or two prototypes there?

 
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Posted Tue Aug 28, 2012, 6:07am
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Yup, at scaa.  He was more than generous in getting me passes.  He had a couple prototypes there; you wouldn't know it came out of a home drip brewer, it was really that good. Some really cool things about it, but biggest things are the temp management and friend saturation.
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