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TheBigDripper
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Espresso: Bialetti 6-cup moka pot
Grinder: Vintage Zassenhaus
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Posted Wed Dec 12, 2012, 5:22pm
Subject: Re: Crap - couldn't avoid impulse buy! (AGAIN!)
 

I'd been using my 6-cup Bialetti for cafe Cubanos, with some success. Hadn't tired Americanos...until I  got a 9-cup Vesubio Via Veneto the other day. Tried it out this morning, and decided to give it a shot (so to speak).

Gads, what I have I been missing? I may have to switch from the dripolator...
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Posted Wed Dec 12, 2012, 5:38pm
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Netphilosopher Said:

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Posted July 1, 2012 link

Never were truer words spoken . . . .

And I agree -- it's never reminded me of anything close to espresso.

 
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jpender
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Grinder: OE LIDO
Vac Pot: S/S Moka Pot
Drip: Aeropress
Posted Thu Dec 13, 2012, 2:47pm
Subject: Re: Crap - couldn't avoid impulse buy! (AGAIN!)
 

I guess that means my S/S pot is a 4-cup. I thought it was a 3-cup model. I bought it so long ago I've forgotten what the box said.

Just for comparison:
176g water filled below valve
50ml basket volume (15-22g untamped grounds, depending on coffee)
125-130g beverage
23-27g residual water in boiler
wet grounds / initial coffee = 1.8-2.2
strength somewhere around 3.0%


Bialetti says this about their Moka Express models:

1 Espresso Cup = 2.0 fl.oz / 60ml (max. boiler capacity)
3 Espresso Cup = 6.5 fl.oz / 200ml (max. boiler capacity)
6 Espresso Cup = 10 fl.oz / 300ml (max. boiler capacity)
9 Espresso Cup = 18.5 fl.oz / 550ml (max. boiler capacity)
12 Espresso Cup =25 fl.oz / 775ml (max. boiler capacity)

(Please note that the max. boiler capacity is slightly more than the final output since there is always a little water left in the boiler after brewing.)


That makes it sound like mine is a 3-cup afterall. I use it as 1-cup.
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IMAWriter
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Grinder: Forte, Preciso/Esatto, KyM...
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Drip: Brazen, Kalita, Chemex,...
Roaster: Behmor 1600, CO/UFO combo
Posted Thu Dec 13, 2012, 4:52pm
Subject: Re: Crap - couldn't avoid impulse buy!
 

frankthecrank Said:

Also, the occasional cuban coffee requires it.

Posted July 1, 2012 link

Respectfully, that is NOTY correct.I spent my first 21 years in Miami, "Little Havana" to be exact.
No sel;f-respecting corner cafe or restaurant would EVER prepare a traditional cafe Cubano in anything but a pump espresso machine, into the "brikka" type vessel, add copious amounts of sugar, stir vigorously, and pout into the tiny .75 oz cups. It's think as oil, and a 100 times sweeter. The combination of sugar and caffeine from Robusta coffee raised Latin tempers even higher! LOL

Perhaps in the home a Moka pot might be used, but that is not the same drink.
I must say you are one of the very few I've come across that prefers Moka pot coffee to a true espresso shot prepared in a pump or lever espresso machine.
What did you do with all the left-over money? :>D

 
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Posted Fri Dec 14, 2012, 8:45pm
Subject: Re: Crap - couldn't avoid impulse buy! (AGAIN!)
 

good price

 
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Posted Sun Dec 16, 2012, 1:02pm
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jpender
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Grinder: OE LIDO
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Drip: Aeropress
Posted Sun Dec 16, 2012, 2:44pm
Subject: Re: Crap - couldn't avoid impulse buy! (AGAIN!)
 

Netphilosopher Said:

Assimilation = ~1.2 based on mostly Jpender's estimates of the grounds after brewing with his moka pot.
...Calculated Assimilation A = (G-C)/C = 0.996 (low to prediction)

Posted December 16, 2012 link

Hmmm? I posted that I get 0.8-1.2.
Averaged over 50 brews I got 1.0.

Netphilosopher Said:

Small weeps from the pressure valve, and seeping from around the connection of the top and bottom.  The seal doesn't act like it's sealing well right now.

Posted December 16, 2012 link

Seepy pressure valve? Leaking gasket? Well, you did buy a cheap knockoff.
That said, when I put in a new gasket it often takes a number of brews for it to set.

Netphilosopher Said:

I think it would be extremely difficult to nearly impossible to get this flavor profile with an AeroPress, but it isn't that dramatically different than those brew methods that are metal-filtered.  I think that I could get a near-duplicate (in fact, I think I have) with an insulated Press Pot.

Posted December 16, 2012 link

Very interesting, thanks for that.
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