Posted Tue Nov 29, 2011, 4:39am Subject: Re: 1st Look - Bonavita Electric Kettle
EricBNC Said:
The Bonavita Kettle holds a liter of water.
The non-electric version has a handle closer to the Buono. I like the handle personally. It keeps the hand from making accidental contact with the hot kettle while pouring.
The thumb indention that gets in the way of Dave's bear paw of a hand is a useful feature for me since I can support the less than full kettle (I fill it half full for my single cup needs) by balancing the kettle on my thumb at the finger guard - instead of 4 fingers inside the handle loop I only have one thumb (imagine the motion used to turn a door knob)
Never, ever thought of that. I believe you but can't figure that one out -- kettle is already on its way to California for Yakster's review.
Con ...Interior spout design - leaves water behind...
The picture which is attached shows residual water due to protruding spout.
Not having the Hario, how much does it hold in comparison?
Rob, the electric kettle's instructions recommend just 1-liter. 40-oz physically fits into the electric kettle but it tends to bubble out of the top's port holes. On the stovetop model, you could cheat and use 40-oz, just like you and I do on the Hario and the Paico.
Posted Tue Nov 29, 2011, 2:46pm Subject: Re: 1st Look - Bonavita Electric Kettle
The thumb indention that gets in the way of Dave's bear paw of a hand is a useful feature for me since I can support the less than full kettle (I fill it half full for my single cup needs) by balancing the kettle on my thumb at the finger guard - instead of 4 fingers inside the handle loop I only have one thumb (imagine the motion used to turn a door knob)
BoldJava Said:
Never, ever thought of that. I believe you but can't figure that one out -- kettle is already on its way to California for Yakster's review.
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Posted Tue Nov 29, 2011, 3:53pm Subject: Re: 1st Look - Bonavita Electric Kettle
This is the team to beat at my house, an Aroma 1.5 liter kettle and a thrifted oil can pouring kettle. I usually boil up all 1.5 liters even though the pouring kettle only holds about 900 ml to use the excess water to heat up the Chemex / Kone and pre-heat my commuter mug in the morning. I normally make 500 ml of coffee in the morning for the Wife and I from 60+ ml of bloom water + 500 ml of brew water.
I'll put the oil can pouring kettle on a burner turned to medium on my radiant heat ceramic stovetop to maintain the water temp while I pre-heat the equipment and during the bloom.
I'm thinking that one liter should be enough for my morning routine and would only be an issue for larger, family sized batches.
That's where the Bonavita stovetop comes in - - cram 40 oz in it and stay on top of it, just as we do with Paicos and Harios. Perfect size for making 1 liter of pourover in the morning.
Posted Wed Nov 30, 2011, 6:53am Subject: Re: 1st Look - Bonavita Electric Kettle
I do like the idea of an electric pour-over kettle, so I'm glad to see this. Great price, too. I'm not personally a fan of the handle, and would have preferred the spout actually be smaller than than of the hario, but the idea that this sort of thing is even being made is great. After all, can you even get your hands on the electric hario?
In a dream world, I'd have a nice, inductive, variable-temperature base (think Kamjove) but with the dynamics of a Takahiro.
Posted Wed Nov 30, 2011, 7:03am Subject: Re: 1st Look - Bonavita Electric Kettle
Dave, could you expand on how this spout beats the Hario's? I too would think that a slimmer spout would equate to more control, though I haven't had much trouble with thin streams or drop-by-drop pours on the Buono. Something to do with the more upright spout?
Certainly. Let's start from common grounds: The Hario is an excellent kettle and in my experience pours well. My Paico and my tests with the Bonavita show me that the Paico and Bonavita kettle pour even better. The design of the Paico and the Bonavita permit a finer, more directed slow pour when I am really working close to the outer perimeter of the cone. The Hario has a tendency to pour straight down or even move behind the spout when I go to the perimeters with a very slow pour. The Paico and Bonavita keep the pour in front of the spout and it is more easily placed just where I want it.
I am not saying Hario owners need to buy a new one. I was satisfied with my Hario until the Paico came along (and the Paico is now my go-to kettle). I am saying, when Aunt Mildred walks away with your Hario, consider the Bonavita because of:
pouring superiority over the Hario
better build than the Paico at the same price
the Bonavita is available from a small Chicago businessman rather than importing the Paico from a small businessman in Hong Kong - keep money local when you can - it circulates
the Hario is way over-priced now that there is competition
Hope that helps. As always, your mileage may vary. Pour on!
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