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Posted Sat Mar 19, 2011, 1:15pm
Subject: Neapolitan Flip Over Coffee Brewer
 

While cleaning out our garage today my wife found a wonderful old grease straining can left behind along with some other trinkets collected and forgotten by the previous owner.  Thankfully after inspecting her find, I saved this Neapolitan flip over coffee brewer from a slimy existence.  It needed cleaning and the lid was screwed on crooked (might be why it was left behind - it took some technique to remove without damaging the device).  This is a large item - a 12 cup pot I guess based on the size and the number 12 on the bottom - the "Made in Italy" is almost gone.  Not exactly the crown jewels, but still a fun find!

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I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
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Posted Sat Mar 19, 2011, 9:55pm
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As many I know would say....SCORE!

 
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Posted Sat Mar 19, 2011, 10:18pm
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EricBNC Said:

While cleaning out our garage today my wife found a wonderful old grease straining can left behind along with some other trinkets collected and forgotten by the previous owner.  Thankfully after inspecting her find, I saved this Neapolitan flip over coffee brewer from a slimy existence.  It needed cleaning and the lid was screwed on crooked (might be why it was left behind - it took some technique to remove without damaging the device).  This is a large item - a 12 cup pot I guess based on the size and the number 12 on the bottom - the "Made in Italy" is almost gone.  Not exactly the crown jewels, but still a fun find!

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I have  one of these too, however I could never get a good cup from it.  Any tips?

Len

 
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Posted Mon Mar 21, 2011, 4:01pm
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CoffeeRoastersClub Said:

I have  one of these too, however I could never get a good cup from it.  Any tips?

Len

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I have tried making exactly one pot so far so no secret to success here.  I did heat the water in an electric kettle instead of a stove top before pouring it into the bottom (top?) of the brewer. I also used a Mr Coffee basket filter to line the bottom of where the water drips down and poured some coffee on top since the level of grit could be substantial otherwise.

No measuring here - all by feel, just like back in the old country, back in the old times, times before measurements... and fire... no, not quite that old, but still old.

The coffee? It tastes like filter drip and should be better with a little more care - the drip rate slows using the filter but is quicker than one would think - what looks like 20 - 22 fl oz of fresh off the boil hot water went through a fine pile of maybe 40g (give or take 5g) of grounds in three or so minutes.  The cup is bright and has decent but not overpowering body - reminiscent of the cup my BUNN NHBX auto drip produces, albeit with much less fanfare.

 
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Posted Mon Mar 21, 2011, 7:20pm
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I have the newer copper one, or at least it looks like copper.  The cup it made was horrible.  Bitter and Metallic.  Maybe I need to season it a bit.

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Posted Mon Mar 21, 2011, 9:03pm
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I've put maybe ten reps on my ~15oz Neapolitan brewer. I'd have to use it a lot more before reaching a level of confidence with it. The big thing for me has been timing: since the coffee is in the drip chamber while the water is heating, it's crucial to stop and flip before it reaches boiling. I've read that you can intuit the decisive moment from the way vapor leaves the vent hole, but the best I can figure is that only trial and error will get me there.

It's pretty easy to use by preheating. That sort of diminishes the fun of using it, IMHO, and so far all the good cups I've made with it haven't been unique, revelatory cups, just good.

Mine's aluminum, gotten on Ebay already seasoned and aged, FWIW. I'm not planning to flip it (sorry) back on the market just yet, in fact I scooted it to the front of the shelf last weekend. Because, it's just really a pretty cool brewing device. Thanks for raising the topic!
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Posted Tue Mar 22, 2011, 4:37am
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I don't think these devices were ever intended to make a refined cup of coffee.  They are a simple utilitarian device, and often fairly roughly manufactured (apart from the uber-expensive Alessi ones).  If you need a sophisticated brew with accurate control of the process, I don't think I'd even try to achieve it with one of these.

I do like them, though. Nostalgic and simple.
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Posted Tue Mar 22, 2011, 8:03am
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__________ Said:

I don't think these devices were ever intended to make a refined cup of coffee.  They are a simple utilitarian device, and often fairly roughly manufactured (apart from the uber-expensive Alessi ones).  If you need a sophisticated brew with accurate control of the process, I don't think I'd even try to achieve it with one of these.

I do like them, though. Nostalgic and simple.

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I agree 100%.  These are very basic self contained pour overs.  I can envision an old country worker carrying one of these (probably the smaller size) out to a lumber camp, a mine, or possibly a stone quarry with his lunch for the day.  With this brewer he has two containers each with separate handles - one part with a spout for pouring and the other one open to use as a cup to drink the coffee.  Both cheap and durable to handle the rugged nature of it's intended environment of use, this simple tool might have grown from these roots into a more common household item over time.

 
I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
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Posted Sun Apr 10, 2011, 12:32pm
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After coming back from Hong Kong I've been wanting a siphon coffee maker. Instead of buying a new one, I thought I'd look for used ones. I walked into a Thrift shop and walked right to part of a Neapolitan pot instead. In the bottom it said 6, Made in Italy. Found the rest of the parts and got it for $2.99.  So, today I used it instead of the aeropress. Same amount of beans (240 beans, or, two aeropress scoop of whole beans) and same stone ground particle size (fine).  It will be easy enough to bring the water to a simmer before putting in the filter cone so that the grounds are not steamed. This first time though i just put all the parts together right from the start. The tiny pin hole showed bubble/steam soon, signal to turn it off. Then, after a few seconds for the water to calm down I flipped it over. Important to flip using both hands instead of one. The spout is well-designed, with a special fitted part (kind of sharp if not careful) one can feel from the inside of the pot for guided pouring. It took a while for the coffee to drip down, though, I was able to pour some before it's coompletely drained due to the good design.  The coffee was strong and needed dilution, but it was as good as the aeropress.  

The added advantage of the Neapolitan coffee maker is in how the pot is preheating during the precess without extra step. I realized that the bottom (the top after inversion) is/can be the preheated cup one can use to drink the coffee, too. So, it really is a camper's dream. Even if one chose to put the filter cone in at the last minute, the top can be fitted over, still pre-heating.  Cleaning was a breeze. Unscrew, dump, rinse, let dry.  No extra filter needed, no cloth, paper, mesh to buy.  Love the old-world wisdom!

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Posted Mon Apr 11, 2011, 8:53am
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Had a "DUH!"moment just now, as I made my coffee with the Neapolitan flip-over coffee maker: Was thinking how I've gotta get more practice flipping this thing when it dawned on me that I don't HAVE to flip it. I was heating up the water without the coffee filter cone because I didn't want to be steaming the grounds prematurely. ...so then, what this really is , is a pour-over, as someone else had mentioned.  So, uh, I don't have to worry about the flip. No need to flip. I could even use the fancy pouring technique if i wanted to, instead of dumping all of the water at once.....Lots of control here, with nice preheat features built-in.
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