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wkearney99
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Posted Sun Jan 16, 2011, 2:42pm
Subject: Re: Bunn Phase Brew™ - New Bunn Brewer
 

ryguy Said:

This unit will really steam up the walls and underside and front of cabinets.

I pull it out to fill it up with water

I took off the spray head and found a little flake of something directly blocking the hole.

Posted January 15, 2011 link

You may want to consider putting a sheet of plastic or something on the underside of the cabinet.  I did that for a setup some years ago.  Just a sheet of acrylic or thin plexiglas type of material.  That kept steam from ruining the cabinet above it.  One tip, pre-drill any holes you need for mounting it.  Hard plastics like this don't expand and will crack if you just try to screw straight through them.  I also put a bead of caulk between it and the cabinet.  This largely eliminated the problems steam was causing.

I don't have to move ours to fill it.  I got a sink faucet that has a hose built into it.  I just pull out the spout and snake it over to the coffee machine.  MUCH easier than dealing with filling the carafe.

For when I do have to move it (for cleaning and the like) I put the machine on a single piece of floor tile, which has some teflon furniture slider feet on the bottom of it.  This way the tile just slides right out, machine and all.  I used a piece of nice black marble.  I find a black tile hides the inevitable crud a little longer...

Most tile places have single tiles as samples you can purchase, so pick something that works for your decor.  I have to buy a slightly larger piece for the HT.  With my previous machine I had it and the grinder on the same 12"x12" piece of tile.  The HT is about an inch wider and now the grinder doesn't fit.  I plan on picking up a longer piece and cutting it to size.  I have a wet saw left over from remodeling the whole bathroom ($70 cheapie from Harbor Fright).  But I'd imagine a tile shop could trim one down for you for a few bucks.
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Posted Wed Jan 19, 2011, 11:33am
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I rec'd mine HG on Dec 1st. and it's  stop working already.  It read "Heating Water" and a moving "racetrack" graphic displayed but nothing happend. Rec'd the replacement unit yesterday and run a batch with water only to check out the spray heat.  I see only 2 steady streams of water and the third one is dripping pattern. What's the deal with these new Bunn machine ?
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Posted Wed Jan 19, 2011, 5:45pm
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Many others, myself included,  have had the same things you described. Quality control issues.
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Posted Thu Jan 20, 2011, 2:37pm
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update, I called Bunn customerservice  today speak with Joyce about the spray head that mine only has 2 steady stream of water, she said that it's normal on this new Bunn Phase machine.
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Posted Thu Jan 20, 2011, 5:24pm
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LOL. Watch the video posted with the Dec. 9 post from lmcloud.
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Posted Thu Jan 20, 2011, 5:41pm
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I still don't understand why there is so much concern over the spray head pattern.
Are your grounds evenly saturated or not?

I'm only getting the two drips but the basket fills up so quickly that all the
grounds are submersed in water.

I still see this as an non issue.
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Posted Thu Jan 20, 2011, 7:07pm
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mario57,
I've been holding off on posting as I test my replacement HT, but...

I tend to agree with you, but (1) Bunn makes a point that you should get this "spray pattern" and (2) twice I've found patches of dry ground coffee in the filter after brewing a 30oz pot.  If there is *dry* coffee in the basket, then there can't possibly be good extraction throughout, no?  The basket only seems to fill with water when brewing a full 40oz pot.  Perhaps I need to grind *really* fine?

I also get better "spray" results with a 40oz pot.  I've never seen anything more than two streams and a drip with 30oz (for what that's worth).  I can't imagine what a 20oz pot does in there.  Perhaps I'll have to check.

Cheers!
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Posted Thu Jan 20, 2011, 7:41pm
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I switched to a very fine grind.  I always brew a full pot.  I've had fully saturated grounds each time.  I still get the feeling it's not getting quite as strong a brew as I'd like.  I'm wondering if it's letting the water out of the basket too quickly.  I hesitate to start making modifications but would a gold filter slow the process more than paper?  Or just the opposite?
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Posted Thu Jan 20, 2011, 8:38pm
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Do you mean a gold filter for Bunn basket or the zmeister mod (see above). I"m not sure it would be any slower. I was wondering about making the hole smaller too, but that might make 40oz overflow the basket! Not much room for error in full pot.
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Posted Fri Jan 21, 2011, 6:41am
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wkearney99,
You may give Bunn a call and see if they will send you a replacement filter basket.  If they are willing to send you one for for free, then you're really not out anything if you do the cone filter mod.  The only reason I went ahead and did it is because I was grinding quite a bit finer than with a cone filter, and was still getting a weak flavored cup.  I do think that you will get better results with a gold-type filter.  It won't slow the process, but should let more oils and fines through.  Of course, the cost is you get a little bit of sludge at the bottom of the cup.  Has anyone out there tried any other type of basket style paper filters besides Bunn brand?
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