clivecoffee Senior Member Joined: 4 Oct 2008 Posts: 31 Location: Portland, OR Expertise: Professional
Posted Tue Jan 4, 2011, 10:43am Subject: Re: The Kone vs. The Gold Tone Filters
Kone: stainless steel; holes are smaller on the inside than on the outside, which allows more flavorful oils through than a paper filter. Requires a more precise grind than gold or gold tone filters. Gold tone filter: A fine mesh, usually brass that is colored to look like gold. Swiss gold filter: A fine mesh coated in real gold, which is inert and doesn't affect coffee flavor at all.
Mine won't be concise. On Friday, 6 of us are having a cupping pourover "throw-down" among:
^ KONE in a Hario V60 ^ Kaffeologie's screen mesh filter http://kaffeologie.com/pourover ^ Melitta whites in a Hario V60 ^ Hario browns in a Hario V60 ^ Bodum gold in a Beehouse pourover cone (large) ^ Swiss Gold in a Beehouse pourover cone (large) ^ Chemex brown (yuck)
Posted Fri Jan 7, 2011, 8:41pm Subject: Re: The Kone vs. The Gold Tone Filters
OK, some basics. We had 3 TDS meters with each giving us different readings! We quickly decided to scrap the TDS aspect and focus on the preps.
We used the same coffee for every prep: San Jose Finca, El Salvador - Anondyne Roaster. Fantastic bean and they put a shine on it: http://www.anodynecoffee.com/ Aida Battle put Anodyne onto this bean; she was buried with orders. San Jose is farmed by the Mathies family, neighbors of Aida. Think terroir.
6 cuppers on the coffee. Give the gents their due: Peter, Grinding Judge Dan the Man, Pouring Judge Dangerous Don, Ambiance Judge Jeff, Artistic Judge Ryan owns http://roastcoffeecompany.com, Wordsmith Judge Dave, B|Java, head judge
So on with the game. Here's the table.
^ Melitta whites - available anywhere, reasonably priced. http://www.melitta.com/faq_brewing,174.html ^ Hario browns - difficult to source, very pricey relative to other papers. Click Here (www.amazon.com) ^ Bodum gold - Available only thru Bodum site: $15.00 http://goo.gl/9SdQG ^ Swissgold - Available via Amazon and Sweet Marias, $35 shipped (Note: 2 cupper discontinued) http://is.gd/kmiUw ^ Kaffeologie - Available only thru K/L http://kaffeologie.com/pourover ^ KONE - Available from numerous sites, $55 shipped. Clive Coffee is one of my favorites: http://is.gd/kmjrM ^ Chemex brown - scrapped - we knew where this horse would end up. Glue factory material.
Supporting cast (both kettles offer a tight 40-oz; 38-oz if you are in the other room while it comes to boil) ^ Hario Buono kettle, $55 shipped. http://is.gd/kmjTt ^ Paiko kettle: $32 shipped airmail from Hong Kong, http://is.gd/kml0H ----- ^ Beehouse Pourover cones: I prefer ceramic over plastic or glass, Beehouse black is great eye candy. From good folks at Orphan Espresso http://is.gd/kmlwD ^ Beehouse pots: Great 22 ouncers, from Beehouse, http://goo.gl/Otrrc ^ Hario pourover cones: Ceramic preference, Click Here (shop.roustaboutproducts.com)
Posted Fri Jan 7, 2011, 8:43pm Subject: Re: The Kone vs. The Gold Tone Filters
We decided to present the coffees two at a time, those that would be closest in preparation. Two of us prepared all the coffees. The other four gents were served coffee without knowing which coffee was which. Two at a time.
First pairing. (Comments were made not knowing which cup there they critiquing):
Melitta whites vs Hario browns ^ Melitta whites drew 6 votes: "fatty" cup, heavier, viscous, more flavors revealed. ^ Hario brown drew 0 votes: "brown paper bag," subdued/occluded flavors, pungent
Don't worry. We fit the filters on better, pre-wet and rinsed. 39 grams coffee, 22 ounces of water. 20 second bloom, averaged 2:30 minute pour.
Here is the Melitta White over a Beehouse Teapot...
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