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iginfect
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Location: herkimer new york
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Espresso: vetrano
Grinder: versalab m3
Vac Pot: yama 5 cup
Drip: melior french press
Roaster: hot top kn-8828p
Posted Wed Jul 14, 2010, 4:45pm
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I use a Zojirushi water heater to give me 208 degF water when I arise. The glass rod-Cory? I can't remember doesn't allow sediment but rarely all the coffee doesn't go back south, I gently rotate the rod and can get a minimum of sediment when the coffee goes down. I'm on my second rod, the second was cheaper on sleazebay, the first from some co. I found on the internet and paid about twice the price. the cheaper one almost never stalls, the fancier one did often and got replaced.
Using preheated water on a very low flame doesn't give me any plastic melting or softening after over 2 years.

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CraigA
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Location: Rexdale, Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Espresso: PID/PressureMod 2001...
Grinder: BUNN FPG-2 DBC, Baratza...
Vac Pot: Bodum Santos manual, Yama 5...
Drip: Behmor BraZen, BUNN VPR-APS,...
Roaster: Refurb Behmor 1600, BBQ...
Posted Wed Jul 14, 2010, 4:57pm
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derevaun Said:

One issue that I've had with the Yama is that the plastic handle has deformed nearest the base, due to heat from my gas burner. I doubt that would be a problem with a ceramic top, but I do know that a ceramic top range takes a long time to boil water when the bottom of the pot isn't totally flat on the surface.
And, if you use a really tinkery vacpot brewing style, you might want a more responsive heat control than ceramic (in my unhappy experience) can give you. Since open flame is out, and thus the tabletop model is out, I think those issues could be abided.

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Why is an open flame out?
Use a stand like this one for only $12.95! & an adjustable flame fondue dish alcohol burner, or this cool one here for only $7.95! pictured below.

See my burner in this thread here: "Re: Alcohol to burn for vac pot heater"

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Vac Pot: Bodum Santos manual, Yama 5...
Drip: Behmor BraZen, BUNN VPR-APS,...
Roaster: Refurb Behmor 1600, BBQ...
Posted Wed Jul 14, 2010, 5:17pm
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My vac pot stand & burner

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Vac Pot: Bodum Santos manual, Yama 5...
Drip: Behmor BraZen, BUNN VPR-APS,...
Roaster: Refurb Behmor 1600, BBQ...
Posted Wed Jul 14, 2010, 5:17pm
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Bodum stand & burner, old style Yama vacuum pot & Cory rod.

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Grinder: Compak K10 (Wega Max 6.8)
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Roaster: RK Drum, SC/TO
Posted Wed Jul 14, 2010, 6:17pm
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Craig -
Nice pics of your setup - thanks for sharing.

I would like to have a burner setup like you, but with a 1 1/2 year old and 3 1/2 year old at home, open flames are out (unless I brew out in the garage).

Thanks for all the wonderful comments and recommendations!   Looks like I will be buying one of the Yama vac-pots from Amazon soon, as well as trying to find a good cory rod..any one here have one for sale cheap?  Like one of the previous messages, those rods look perverse...ha!

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Posted Wed Jul 14, 2010, 11:50pm
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Hi, ljcoffeeguy

If you have kids around and are rightly worried about open flames, sadly a Vac-pot may not be something you'd want anyway.  They are inherently unstable when brewing with a lot of the weight in the top globe, so you'd need to keep it well out of harms way irrespective of how you heat it because of the risk of toppling some very hot water.  The simple stove top models are possibly worse in this regard as opposed to table top models which have some form of stand, but neither is good with kids around.

It's a shame because they make - in my view - the best brewed coffee around once you get the hang of them.

I've only owned 2 - the Bodum one broke fairly quickly (may have been my carelessness rather than any manufacturing fault) and I didn't really like the filter.

The Cona is much better device, and has a glass rod filter that is designed specifically for it.  The question was asked earlier about how much sediment it allows through.  There is some very fine "silt" - I reckon slightly less than I get using a gold filter in a drip machine. I've never had a "stall" either.

In terms of your "bang for the buck" the Cona is easily the most expensive if you go for the stylish table-top models, but the "kitchen" models are quite a bit cheaper. On the other hand, they are very good quality glass, and as all parts are easy to replace in the case of accidents you can view it as a very long term purchase.  Look around - you'll find them still in use from the early part of the last century.
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Joined: 17 Jul 2010
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Location: uk
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: electric, bialetti, seb moka
Grinder: seb
Vac Pot: bodum, cona
Drip: french cafieiere,
Roaster: nope
Posted Sat Jul 17, 2010, 10:11pm
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I finally picked up a bodum electric "santos" on ebay after reading acres of hard luck stories in the reviews

...the only practical vacuum pot with kids; great coffee; fantastic rude noise as it blows the water through; cabaret for dinner guests. It is so simple and fantastically user friendly that I can see the temptation to use it daily, but wouldn't rely on it given others' experience.

...but it is a kitchen appliance rather than  chemistry experiment which the conas are which makes you just want to blearily switch it on every morning.

60 pounds for a new one - worth it for a years customer support and great coffee ??- even if its landfill after that ??

mine is used only when entertaining and I've three of four to make coffee for... and watch for inevitable raised eyebrows as they taste coffee like never before
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Joined: 25 Jun 2008
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Location: Burnaby, BC
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Breville Infuser BES840XL
Grinder: Baratza Virtuoso Preciso
Drip: AeroPress
Posted Wed Jul 28, 2010, 12:28am
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@ljcoffeeguy I hope I'm not hijacking your post, but I'm current in a similar situation.  I've been interested in vac pots for some time now after trying out the brewed coffee at a couple local cafés here in Vancouver.  

To the people of the CG foruns: I'm currently caught between getting either a Yama TCA-3 or a Hario NCA-3, and adding the option of a butane burner.The Yama + burner combo would cost me $125, where the Hario + cloth filters + burner would cost $50 more!  Is there any particular reason to favour the Hario over the Yama (i.e. in terms of build quality, different in tasting notes)?
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