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Posted Mon Aug 3, 2009, 12:56pm
Subject: Re: the drip dillema: Technivorm vs Bunn
 

So, after much reading I was leaning towards a Capresso ST600 much like the original poster of this thread, for many of the same reasons. I looked high and low to find a machine that was around $50 to no avail. Are these machines replaced with something else now? I came across one site that had them for over $150 but thats too much, I'd go the Bunn route for that much dough.  Anyone have any info? Thanks in advance!
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Posted Mon Aug 10, 2009, 5:58pm
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I've owned 4  Bunn Home models over the years and really did like them.  My first choice for coffee is French Press, but that can be too difficult first thing in the morning.  My last Bunn died a couple of months ago and I decided it was time to do a little research on coffee makers since every time the Bunn would die I would just run out and buy another one immediately.   Keep in mind I did not own the commerical version, but the home models.

I decided to purchase a Technivorm with the metal carafe.  I'm very glad I did.  I love the taste of the coffee, it's hotter and fresher. It just tastes noticeably better.   It may be because the water sits in the Bunn tank for so long it gets a little stale.  If I make one pot every morning that means the water in the holding tank  was smmering for 24 hours before the next pot was made.  Now, I never noticed this during my years of supporting the Bunn corporation , it's only now that I have the Technivorm that I see the difference .  I also LIKE the Technivorm thermal carafe.  I have no problems pouring coffee, in fact it's easier and less messy then any of the glass Bunn carafes supplied with the home models.  I also use a little less coffee with the Technivorm, probably because the drip is a little slower.  

Again, I'm comparing the home model of the Bunn. But the Technivorm wins hands down in the cup.
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Posted Tue Aug 11, 2009, 7:04am
Subject: Re: the drip dillema: Technivorm vs Bunn
 

susanilz5 Said:

I'm very glad I did.  I love the taste of the coffee, it's hotter and fresher.

Posted August 10, 2009 link

Glad that you posted and that you like your TV.  Just a comment on the temp.  Bunns are designed to brew at the proper temp and so are the TV.  If the TV is noticeably hotter than the bunn something was wrong with your home unit Bunn.  200 degrees is 200 degrees.  It's like the question that asks what weights more a pound of feathers or a pound of lead?  They are both a pound and 200 can't be hotter than 200 degrees.  Again, glad that you are enjoying your coffee and you TV.

Just a thought, did you change out anything else when you did your research into coffee makers, like using a fresher roast etc?  Might be another reason for the taste difference.  My Bunn is the commercial unit and while I have 3 Bodum Presses, an Aeropress and a cheap espresso machine the commercial Bunn is my cup of choice.  Made here in the states and if something does break in the next 30 years or so of it's expected life span, I can find parts for it in most major cities.

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Posted Tue Aug 11, 2009, 7:33am
Subject: Re: the drip dillema: Technivorm vs Bunn
 

susanilz5 Said:

I've owned 4  Bunn Home models over the years and really did like them.  My first choice for coffee is French Press, but that can be too difficult first thing in the morning.  My last Bunn died a couple of months ago and I decided it was time to do a little research on coffee makers since every time the Bunn would die I would just run out and buy another one immediately.   Keep in mind I did not own the commerical version, but the home models.

I decided to purchase a Technivorm with the metal carafe.  I'm very glad I did.  I love the taste of the coffee, it's hotter and fresher. It just tastes noticeably better.   It may be because the water sits in the Bunn tank for so long it gets a little stale.  If I make one pot every morning that means the water in the holding tank  was smmering for 24 hours before the next pot was made.  Now, I never noticed this during my years of supporting the Bunn corporation , it's only now that I have the Technivorm that I see the difference .  I also LIKE the Technivorm thermal carafe.  I have no problems pouring coffee, in fact it's easier and less messy then any of the glass Bunn carafes supplied with the home models.  I also use a little less coffee with the Technivorm, probably because the drip is a little slower.  

Again, I'm comparing the home model of the Bunn. But the Technivorm wins hands down in the cup.

Posted August 10, 2009 link

Interesting comment about stale water.  I understand water can go stagnant but stale? Stale water requires the water to be in a sealed container.  Then after opening bacteria grows faster in it (bottled over 2 years from what I understand). I don't want to get into this war again, but I have a commercial Bunn unit and sold my Technivorm, I have no idea about the home Bunn but they are clearly not made to the standards of the commercial unit. From what you have said.


Clay34 Said:

Glad that you posted and that you like your TV.  Just a comment on the temp.  Bunns are designed to brew at the proper temp and so are the TV.  If the TV is noticeably hotter than the bunn something was wrong with your home unit Bunn.  200 degrees is 200 degrees.  It's like the question that asks what weights more a pound of feathers or a pound of lead?  They are both a pound and 200 can't be hotter than 200 degrees.  Again, glad that you are enjoying your coffee and you TV.

Just a thought, did you change out anything else when you did your research into coffee makers, like using a fresher roast etc?  Might be another reason for the taste difference.  My Bunn is the commercial unit and while I have 3 Bodum Presses, an Aeropress and a cheap espresso machine the commercial Bunn is my cup of choice.  Made here in the states and if something does break in the next 30 years or so of it's expected life span, I can find parts for it in most major cities.

Rick

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That is 30 years as a commercial unit.  I imagine it will be a lot longer at home, and we can replace every part.
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Posted Tue Aug 11, 2009, 7:41am
Subject: Re: the drip dillema: Technivorm vs Bunn
 

susanilz5 Said:

It just tastes noticeably better. It may be because the water sits in the Bunn tank for so long it gets a little stale.

Posted August 10, 2009 link

Start off first thing in the morning with a fresh cold pot of water then!

If I make one pot every morning that means the water in the holding tank  was smmering for 24 hours before the next pot was made.  Now, I never noticed .

Just unplug your home Bunn unit after brewing, it only takes 12 - 15 minutes to be ready to brew..

 
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Posted Tue Aug 11, 2009, 7:46am
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CraigA Said:

Start off with a fresh cold pot of water then!

Just unplug your home Bunn unit after brewing, it only takes 12 - 15 minutes to be ready to brew..

Posted August 11, 2009 link

Hi Craig, as I said water does not go stale in the open. It can go stagnant in the open. An I have my unit on a timer. That unit cost me 15 on sale and i can have it do multiple on and of'sf so in my case it is set to warm the water at 6am and 4pm and is only on a short time.
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Posted Tue Aug 11, 2009, 7:47am
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Sorry for the little bit of thread drift but when Craig posted to start off with cold water, a light came on.  Just last week we were listening to one of those doctor shows and a question was asked about drinking water out of you tap.  The question was why not drink hot water out of the tap and the doctor replied that the reason that we drink cold water is that many older homes still have lead pipes and that the hot water contained more lead than the cold water.  I found that an interesting little tid bit on drinking cold water or starting off with cold water.  I know that many plastics have chemicals which are released when exposed to hot water.  Cold water is just a cleaner source.  Thought I would throw that out there and it made me smile about only adding cold water to the coffee maker.

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Posted Tue Aug 11, 2009, 7:49am
Subject: Re: the drip dillema: Technivorm vs Bunn
 

Judge Said:

pot of water then!

Just unplug your home Bunn unit after brewing, it only takes 12 - 15 minutes to be ready to brew..

Posted August 11, 2009 link

Hi Craig, as I said water does not go stale in the open. It can go stagnant in the open. An I have my unit on a timer. That unit cost me 15 on sale and i can have it do multiple on and of'sf so in my case it is set to warm the water at 6am and 4pm and is only on a short time.

Cheap timer on my end too.  No need to have it going 24 hrs a day.  There is no cafe in my kitchen and it doesn't take long to warm up if I have unexpected company.
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Posted Tue Aug 11, 2009, 8:06am
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Judge Said

Hi Craig, as I said water does not go stale in the open. It can go stagnant in the open. An I have my unit on a timer. That unit cost me 15 on sale and i can have it do multiple on and of'sf so in my case it is set to warm the water at 6am and 4pm and is only on a short time.

?? Hi John, I was addressing susanilz5 (I quoted her in my post). Yeah, I know that.. Seeing as the water is sterilized & sealed in the boiler, it's not gonna go stale or stagnant in any reasonable length of time.

 
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Posted Tue Aug 11, 2009, 8:18am
Subject: Re: the drip dillema: Technivorm vs Bunn
 

CraigA Said:

?? Hi John, I was addressing susanilz5 (I quoted her in my post). Yeah, I know that.. Seeing as the water is sterilized & sealed in the boiler, it's not gonna go stale or stagnant in any reasonable length of time.

Posted August 11, 2009 link

Yes I understand that, what really surprises me is that susanilz5 went through 4 noncommercial Bunn units, they must be well under the standards of the commercial units. But I guess you pay x amount for the Bunn home unit double that for the TV and more again for the Bunn commercial.
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