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Jan_H
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Posted Sun Aug 3, 2008, 4:09pm
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Iced coffee is great with cold-brew, as well as Thai-style (also called iced Vietnamese coffee, too, I think). I think it would probably work for any recipe where you add ice cubes to a shaker, too, like espresso martinis and such. Anything you were going to use espresso and ice for should be a good drink with the cold-brew as well. A lot of coffeehouses I know of make their cold and iced drinks with cold-brew. There are also some recipes on the Toddy site (link above).

Yup you might need to add more coffee to the press depending on what you are using. The Toddy ratio is roughly about 4:1 water to coffee so that's what I've based it on, but I'm using French Market.

Here's a handy set of measurements (U.S.) from the Toddy site for recalculating:
1 pound of coffee = 16 ounces = 60 heaping tablespoons = 75 level tablespoons = 5.25 cups (~ 5 tablespoons = 1 ounce)
9 cups of water = 72 ounces

The Toddy site also talks about recalculating. I've just found that one 13-oz. can of French Market is perfect, and I make a 2nd batch with the used grinds, too, let it set for 24 hours and use 2 oz. of concentrate per cup of coffee. Sometimes I use warm water to make the second batch in the winter time. One thing I do differently though with the Toddy is I put the grounds in first and then run tap water into the urn and mash the grounds down until they are all dampened. I also picked up an el cheapo shower cap at the store and stretch that over the top of the urn while it's sitting. Keeps odd things out of the coffee like bugs, barbie dolls, hot wheel cars etc.

And if you have the Toddy, the decanter that comes with it is just a plain old-fashioned 50's style juice decanter that you can find at most stores pretty cheap. So you can have two decanters to swap out when supplies run low, or for use with making a second batch.
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Posted Sun Aug 3, 2008, 6:18pm
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When I make Iced Coffee with the concentrate I use around 50% concentrate, 35% water & 15% half & half. Using Peet's Major Dickason's the i/c had a nice dark chocolate flavor. Next I want to try Intelligentsia's
El Diablo Dark Roast  in the Toddy.

 
John
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Posted Sun Aug 3, 2008, 6:48pm
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KillerQ Said:

I just did a 12 hour batch....  Came out great!  I used the Pike Place Roast....  Real Mellow!

So, what are some good recipes using this concentrate?


Later,

Matt!

Posted August 3, 2008 link

3 oz coffee concentrate
2 oz vodka
3 oz 1/2 & 1/2 (substitute a scoop of premium vanilla ice cream)
1 cup of ice
Sugar to taste
drop of vanilla or maybe cinnamon

Dump in blender until smooth.
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Posted Sun Aug 3, 2008, 7:10pm
Subject: Re: Cold brewing coffee, unexpected benefits
 

Hey all,

    My wife bought a bottle of Starbucks Coffee Frappucino today - I had a taste, and then tried to duplicate it using my cold brew.

     Just guessing, I used 1/4 cup + 2 Tbs of concentrate, 1 Tbs of sugar, and 1 cup of milk.  I shook it all up, and we both agreed that it taste the same as the store bought!!  Bingo!

    I love this stuff....


   Jan, thanks for the measurement breakdown - I was on the FrenchMarket site looking for those - i guess I was in the wrong place...  Also, I heard that the red HotWheels cars will add a bit of flavor to the brew....can you confirm?


Later,

Matt!
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Posted Sun Aug 3, 2008, 8:41pm
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I watched a video on You Tube from the French Market people promoting the coffee using the Toddy Cold brew.
Interesting.
I'm going to dig mine out of retirement and try it again.  I can't remember why I quit using it.  I know I wasn't using the really fine coffees I use now.  I remember the first time I used it, I came home frome work after it had been brewing all day and the aroma was truly glorious.
And incidentally, I just put a folded newpaper over it to keep the undesirables out.
I really did like the coffee though, I do remember that.

Wayne
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Jan_H
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Posted Mon Aug 4, 2008, 9:19pm
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*I heard that the red HotWheels cars will add a bit of flavor to the brew....can you confirm?*


Ummm ... cinnamon I think ...

ROFL! Sometimes I wish that I could draw. I get the funniest mind-pictures that would make great cartoons. Like a guy sitting at the bar looking aghast at his espresso martini with a green Hot Wheels car in it instead of fruit; and the bartender tells him it's a splash of lime ...

OK, maybe not ... :)
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Posted Mon Aug 11, 2008, 12:17pm
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just wondering....I only have a 4 Cup French Press.....could I brew a larger batch of concentrate in a 32 ounce water bottle and then filter it a little at a time in my french press?  Do the grounds sink to the bottom of the container after sitting a while?
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Jan_H
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Posted Mon Aug 11, 2008, 9:52pm
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Try using 1/3 to 1/2 cup ground coffee in your 4-cup press. Yes, you can brew it in a separate 32-ounce container. Then put a paper coffee filter in a funnel and pour the cold brew through the funnel into another storage container. Sometimes the grounds sink to the bottom, but not always. Most of mine tend to float. You can keep the concentrate in the refrigerator for a couple of weeks without it losing its flavor. Good luck!
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Posted Tue Aug 12, 2008, 8:43am
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My problem now is now that I'm about out of the beans I had been trying to use up. I hate to use really good coffee beans that are destined to have milk and maybe vanilla added to them.

Anyone have a stash of something they'd like to be rid of?  Not too old?

I'm going to try some cheap ground coffee and see if my wife notices. Not sure if I'm committing sacrilege by admitting to this on coffee geek.
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illinigirl
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Posted Tue Aug 12, 2008, 3:20pm
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just to add to the measurements comments: I bought a 2lb bag of whole bean coffee from Costco today and it measured out at a bit more than 12 cups ground coffee (I ground it on the coarse setting in the Costco grinder).  So with this logic I put 6 Cups of ground coffee into my glass sun-tea container and added 9 Cups of water.  That would mean 1.5Cups water to every 1 Cup grounds.  Quite different than some of the other recipes in this thread.  But since this is supposed to be coffee concentrate I don't imagine it can ever be too strong, right?

Yesterday I brewed a batch using a 10oz package of pre-ground Starbucks coffee with about 5.5 Cups of water.  I didn't measure how many cups the 10oz package turned out to be. But anyways I brewed that from 4pm yesterday to about 9:30am this morning and then filtered it with some basket style filters lining my mesh colander and it turned out perfectly.  

For me I like the idea of using the cheaper beans because I personally think that this cold brewing method sort of 'evens out' the differences in quality among beans because of the way I serve up my concentrate (trying to duplicate an iced coffee from a coffee house with a little milk and vanilla syrup and lots of ice).
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