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The_Mighty_Bean
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Posted Tue Jan 1, 2008, 1:03pm
Subject: Audrey squirted me again! :(
 

Thus continueth the chronicle of my troubles with this Rancilio Audrey.  As some of you know, I ebayed myself an Audrey and had issues getting the correct pressure dialed in. This led to a gasket replacement.

I now have Audrey's shots confirmed at 9.0 bar. Everything mechanical seems fine.  I have an ltalsomac grinder, which is comparable to a Rocky. The coffee I am using is fresh.

Here's the issue. If I grind too finely, Audrey does not choke. She does not give me a 40 or 50 second shot.

Instead she shoots fine streams of hot water out past the sides of the portafilter, burning me, and watering down the shot-in-progress.

This has been hapenning since I got the machine, and it hampers my ability to adjust the grind. If I have a shot that's pouring just a little too fast, and I go one step up, Audrey gets mad and squirts me.  As a result, normal doubles are very difficult to dial in, and going triple basket or ristretto is pretty near impossible.

The OPV is not clogged, I cleaned it out with a pinhead. The solenoid works fine, I hear it dump pressure whenever I take off the PF after a shot. I also just backflushed a couple of days ago so it's all clean in there.

What should I do? I'm tempted to create some sort of additional waterseal in between the PF and the grouphead, but have no idea how to go about that.

This problem has occurred with 3 different portafilters, including the original.   I generally work with a naked PF and ridgeless baskets, but I have an assortment and nothing I've done solves this problem.

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Posted Sat May 10, 2008, 7:32pm
Subject: Re: Audrey squirted me again! :(
 

I just found this thread on a google search, so I thoght I'd fill in the solution to the problem, which I learned shortly after posting the original query.

You have to use your other arm to brace the Audrey, and you really have to push hard on the PF for that final quarter inch or so. Put some elbow grease into it.   Then the portafilters lock in without a problem, and you can pull any shot you want.

Two caveats:

If you overdose the basket too much, you'll probably still get squirted no matter what. Dose according to your basket size.

If you ar using the stock Audrey portafilter, it only takes shallow baskets like what it comes with. Don't torture yourself. Get a Silvia-style portafilter with LM-style ridgeless baskets. Your shots will improve noticeably and you will be squirted with hot water a whole lot less.


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Posted Sat May 10, 2008, 9:55pm
Subject: Re: Audrey squirted me again! :(
 

you might try a different portafilter.. the original that came with my astra had leaking problems that a marzocco pf solved.. it will fit your wega too and it's badass.. you can also get one of those cheapies at marzoccoman.com..

Click Here (www.marzoccoman.com)

the marzocco, in my experience, has thicker tabs then that black pf that came with audrey.. try using the pf that came with the wega on it too..
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Posted Mon May 12, 2008, 9:03am
Subject: Re: Audrey squirted me again! :(
 

Thanks Mitchell, that's a fantastic link. I did try the Wega PF's, plus my aftermarket naked one  All of them fit, some turn farther (have smaller wings) than others, but ALL of them leak unless I put some muscle into tightening them. And the gasket is new.

As best I can tell, it's a quirk of the Audrey grouphead... maybe it's just mine.  At any rate, it is never a problem, I'm just posting it as an FYI to others who may pick up an Audrey on Ebay, etc.


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Posted Tue May 13, 2008, 12:21pm
Subject: Re: Audrey squirted me again! :(
 

i just never had that problem with my audrey..

you could also fool around with adjusting the opv valve.. it's on the side of the boiler when you take audrey apart.. it is connected to the line that goes back into the water reservoir..

if the opv is completely closed than the pump pressure alone is a little excessive.. still the gasket should probably create a good seal, but you might get better shots at ~8-9 bar than the 11-12 if the opv is closed.
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