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rasqual
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Posted Fri Dec 29, 2006, 11:17am
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You're to be credited with kicking off a fine thread, with that. Wonderful reading.

I have a Brikka clone, but would like to pick up something better. It'd be for just me or perhaps two servings. Any suggestions?

My own satisfaction has come from being able to get so many different kinds of cups from one device (Aero). That level of control is wonderful. But many more classic brewing devices are worth using because of their consistency at doing one thing quite well.

Since it'll be some time before I can afford a good espresso machine and grinder, it'd be fun to play with a Brikka for a while.
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Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007, 5:04pm
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rasqual Said:

I have a Brikka clone, but would like to pick up something better.

Posted December 29, 2006 link

Interesting. What is this Brikka clone like? Does it really have the same top-hat widget as the Brikka?

 
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Roaster: "ring roaster", mod popper
Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007, 5:37pm
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Enkerli Said:

Interesting. What is this Brikka clone like? Does it really have the same top-hat widget as the Brikka?

Posted January 11, 2007 link

Actually, I misspoke entirely. I do NOT have a Brikka clone.

Alas.
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Enkerli
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Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007, 6:02pm
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rasqual Said:

Actually, I misspoke entirely. I do NOT have a Brikka clone.

Posted January 11, 2007 link

Oh, ok. It might take a while before Brikka clones are made. Judging from Bialetti's patent history (i.e., with the moka pot itself), I guess that there will be some clones in a few years. Which could work in interesting ways. One issue with the Brikka is size. They only do two and four cups models but many people would like bigger versions (and some are saying that the 4cup isn't as good as the 2cup, which is in fact based on a 3cup size).
At any rate, Brikka can easily be said to be closer to espresso than a standard moka pot is, even though Brikka is significantly different from espresso.
Which makes me wonder about the AeroPress even more. A local CGer should bring his Aero' to a coffee jam so we should be able to observe differences in taste...

 
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Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007, 6:32pm
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My Brikka came today, woo!
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Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007, 7:49pm
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w00t! ;-)
So? Did you do a couple sacrificial brews? Are you getting nice aromas coming out of the pot already?
One thing that has been noticed with some Brikkas recently is that the valve may be letting off steam. I never had that problem but a friend of mine has it. His Brikka is newer than mine and the valve is much smaller than on mine...

 
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Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007, 8:16pm
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reptilegrrl Said:

Which makes the most espresso-like brew?

I have an Aeropress but am not having much success with it.  I'm considering trading it in for a moka pot or Brikka.  Thoughts?  Suggestions?  What I want is to get as close as possible to the flavor of espresso.

Posted December 28, 2006 link

http://www.caffesolo.com/cat1_18_stainless-moka.html


I have been curious as well,i found a cool page to look at...



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Grinder: Hario hand grinders
Vac Pot: (Moka Pot) Bialetti Brikka
Drip: Steep and release pour-over
Roaster: iRoast-2
Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007, 8:57pm
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Yemenman Said:

http://www.caffesolo.com/cat1_18_stainless-moka.html
I have been curious as well,i found a cool page to look at...

Posted January 11, 2007 link

Cute. Usually, Bialetti's aluminum pots (in any design) seem to produce the best results, in terms of taste. Not that I really noticed differences, but I haven't had better coffee in a stainless steel pot than in an aluminum pot (and aluminum isn't a health issue in a pot, according to the CDC.)
The Brikka is a different device, it has a top-hat widget on top of the chimney, which maintains a higher level of pressure than in a standard moka pot. Also, the coffee goes through small holes in that widget. The main effect is a crema-like emulsion on the coffee, which may then look like espresso.

 
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Vac Pot: Yama, Aeropress
Drip: Porcelain Melitta 103, Hario
Roaster: "ring roaster", mod popper
Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007, 10:56pm
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Enkerli Said:

Which makes me wonder about the AeroPress even more. A local CGer should bring his Aero' to a coffee jam so we should be able to observe differences in taste...

Posted January 11, 2007 link

You really should pick one up. Then send me your addy and I'll send you some polyester filters for the thing.
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Espresso: (At cafés, not at home)
Grinder: Hario hand grinders
Vac Pot: (Moka Pot) Bialetti Brikka
Drip: Steep and release pour-over
Roaster: iRoast-2
Posted Fri Jan 12, 2007, 9:16am
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rasqual Said:

You really should pick one up. Then send me your addy and I'll send you some polyester filters for the thing.

Posted January 11, 2007 link

Deal!
It might take a few weeks, but it's doable.

 
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