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AlanAdler
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AlanAdler
Joined: 31 Dec 2005
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Location: Palo Alto, Calif
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Espresso: AeroPress
Grinder: Baratza - Virtuoso
Roaster: Fresh Roast SR-500
Posted Thu Feb 9, 2006, 2:04pm
Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
 

Hi Brian,

An important factor is the amount of coffee.  Are you using our scoop?  Try an extra scoop - even if it seems like a lot.

Incidentally, Peet's dark roasting process reduces edge.  But if you're using Peet's I presume that you are familiar with that.  You might be interested in this earlier post regarding dark roasts and "edge".

"Re: Aerobie Aeropress"

Sincerely,

Alan
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twalker294
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Location: Louisiana, USA
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Espresso: Aeropress
Grinder: Solis Maestro Classic
Vac Pot: Bodum Columbia FP
Posted Thu Feb 9, 2006, 2:22pm
Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
 

sinebubble Said:

Alan, thanks for your prompt assistance!

I bumped the temperature to 188F and slightly increased the amount of grounds. I drank it straight and then diluted 1:1. The "blandness" was still present. Without saying anything about my impression of the coffee, I made a cup for my girlfirend. She also said it was bland and tasteless. Hmmm.

My next step is to try a different blend. Aged Garuda has been my favorite in the past and I actually like their 101 blend. I'll try them both this weekend in hopes that it's actually the coffee, not the process, that is the issue.

Brian

Posted February 9, 2006 link

Wow..bland is about the last word I'd use to describe my Aeropress coffee. Rich and smooth are my two favorites. When I want a little more "bite" I still use my french press but the Aeropress yields a great cup for me. I hope it's your coffee that is the culprit. I have tried Kenya AA, Ethopian Harrar, Mocha Java, Costa Rican Tarrazu, Tanzania Peaberry, and Guatemalan Antigua in my Aeropress, all from Our Coffee Barn. The more medium blends aren't as good as a darker blend IMHO. The Harrar was much better in the Aero than in my FP...

Good luck!
Todd
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b512
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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2006, 8:45pm
Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
 

twalker294 Said:

Wow..bland is about the last word I'd use to describe my Aeropress coffee. Rich and smooth are my two favorites. When I want a little more "bite" I still use my french press but the Aeropress yields a great cup for me. I hope it's your coffee that is the culprit. I have tried Kenya AA, Ethopian Harrar, Mocha Java, Costa Rican Tarrazu, Tanzania Peaberry, and Guatemalan Antigua in my Aeropress, all from Our Coffee Barn. The more medium blends aren't as good as a darker blend IMHO. The Harrar was much better in the Aero than in my FP...

Good luck!
Todd

Posted February 9, 2006 link

 Nicely written,Todd. You are probably right--I too,find the Aeropress superb. However,remember how much tastes vary. For some,the  Aeropress may just not be right,no matter what the coffee used. Still,your suggestions about coffee may change the story.
                                         Regards,
                                              Barry
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LukeSeubert
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Posted Fri Feb 10, 2006, 8:55am
Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress - storage
 

Good Alan.

A question about storage. From the instruction sheet, I know that it is not a good idea to keep the plunger's rubber seal contained inside the chamber as this compresses the seal over time. The recommendation is to push the plunger all the way through the chamber, or to store it separately from the chamber.

I like to store my Aeropress by pushing the plunger all the way through the chamber, then snugging the rubber seal up against the chamber rim, and twist-locking the cap into place. However, this does seem to require seating the rubber seal pretty firmly into the chamber rim. Would this compress the seal too much? Or was the Aeropress designed to be properly stored in this manner?

On a separate note, this form of storage is amazingly compact. I can toss the scoop and paddle into the plunger, and stack the chamber/plunger/cap on top of the filter holder, and it takes up very little space on my desk. I would think this sort of elegant, space saving design would do well in a market like Japan where folks appreciate really compact appliances. Of course, the Aeropress lacks a lot of gee-whiz, hi-tech blinkenlights and buttons, which are also popular in Japan. Regardless, have you considered selling the Aeropress in Asia?

Cheers,
Luke Seubert
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sinebubble
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Posted Fri Feb 10, 2006, 9:06am
Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
 

Alan and everyone, thank you for your help. I purchased Peets Blend 101 (in absence of Aged Garuda, 101 is THE Peets blend, IMO) and their Peaberry. The Peaberry was a hit with the girl, but Blend 101 demonstrated for me that my Aeropress issues were around the blend. The 101 blend is what I'm used to getting when I go to Peets. So, nothing wrong with Aeropress, just a simple blend issue. Thanks for your attention, everyone!

Brian
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AlanAdler
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Posted Fri Feb 10, 2006, 9:30am
Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress - storage
 

LukeSeubert Said:

Good Alan.

A question about storage. From the instruction sheet, I know that it is not a good idea to keep the plunger's rubber seal contained inside the chamber as this compresses the seal over time. The recommendation is to push the plunger all the way through the chamber, or to store it separately from the chamber.

I like to store my Aeropress by pushing the plunger all the way through the chamber, then snugging the rubber seal up against the chamber rim, and twist-locking the cap into place. However, this does seem to require seating the rubber seal pretty firmly into the chamber rim. Would this compress the seal too much? Or was the Aeropress designed to be properly stored in this manner?

On a separate note, this form of storage is amazingly compact. I can toss the scoop and paddle into the plunger, and stack the chamber/plunger/cap on top of the filter holder, and it takes up very little space on my desk. I would think this sort of elegant, space saving design would do well in a market like Japan where folks appreciate really compact appliances. Of course, the Aeropress lacks a lot of gee-whiz, hi-tech blinkenlights and buttons, which are also popular in Japan. Regardless, have you considered selling the Aeropress in Asia?

Cheers,
Luke Seubert

Posted February 10, 2006 link

Hi Luke,

Twisting the cap to the locked position requires that you push the seal into the chamber and compress it.  We recomended against storage in compression just to be on the safe side but I've actualy stored that way and not seen a problem.  If you leave the cap loose on the end, the seal will not be compressed.

Japan has alway been in our top two Aerobie export markets.  But we had a slow start because in the early years they thought that you played Aerobie (flying ring) alone by throwing, then walking to retrieve it.  It was several years after introduction that I discovered that they didn't realize it was a game of catch!

I've heard that there are boutique coffee houses where they have vacuum brewers and brew to order.  I think the AeroPress would work well in that environment.  I'm also trying to interest American coffee houses in using the AeroPress that way.  Perhaps you've seen some of my friendly challenges to a "taste-off".

http://www.portafilter.net/2006/01/how-clover-works.html  (scroll down for my post)

"Re: Clover at Artigiano"

On a different subject I'm delighted that sinebubble is happy and I thank everyone for coming to his assistance.  That's the way these forums are supposed to work.

Best regards,

Alan
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Gate
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Roaster: Four FreshRoast+8's
Posted Fri Feb 10, 2006, 2:52pm
Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
 

Alan, I've been impressed with your help in this forum, so I bought an Aeropress a few days ago. I have enjoyed it, but today I have tried to use it with very fresh (roasted on the 7th) coffee I purchased to use in my new La Pavoni, which is not functional due to a faulty cap. I need to use up that coffee before it gets old, and although I used some real junk in the Aeropress and it was pretty good, this stuff isn't working for me. Here's the problem: I found the portions of coffee were tiny when trying to make one or two shots. I'm diluting them for an Americano, and they were a bit weak. So, I ground four scoops, put them in, and put in the required amount of water. That's a lot! Well, it swelled up and overflowed when I tried to stir it, sending sludge and grounds all over my kitchen counter. I had to take the whole mess outside to dump it, dribbling glop the whole way. Could it be that this press doesn't like fresh coffee? I'm using Black Cat from Intelligentsia. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. I think maybe I am not using the proper amount of water or something, even though I'm measuring it by the marks on the chamber.

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JPR
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Posted Fri Feb 10, 2006, 3:22pm
Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
 

There's not room for the coffee to "bloom" in the aeropress when you are making more than "2" servings. That's something I noted when I first looked at the device.

Obviously, your coffee is very fresh. I assume it had "rested" for 1 or 2 days after roasting?

Other than making a smaller quantity of coffee when dealing with freshly roasted beans, you could also try dribbling in the water while stirring to release the carbon dioxide before it takes off with your grounds. Keep stirring and dribbling until the bloom disappates, then proceed as normal.

You could also left your grounds "rest" for a bit after grinding, although this seems a sad thing to do with freshly roasted coffee.
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Posted Fri Feb 10, 2006, 3:44pm
Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
 

JPR Said:

There's not room for the coffee to "bloom" in the aeropress when you are making more than "2" servings. That's something I noted when I first looked at the device.

Obviously, your coffee is very fresh. I assume it had "rested" for 1 or 2 days after roasting?

Other than making a smaller quantity of coffee when dealing with freshly roasted beans, you could also try dribbling in the water while stirring to release the carbon dioxide before it takes off with your grounds. Keep stirring and dribbling until the bloom disappates, then proceed as normal.

You could also left your grounds "rest" for a bit after grinding, although this seems a sad thing to do with freshly roasted coffee.

Posted February 10, 2006 link

I figured since it was roasted on the 7th, that it had rested enough. But that's a good idea about dribbling in the water and stirring. I'll try that, and I guess I won't be able to use four scoops. Thanks, JPR.

Gate
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Happyboy
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Posted Fri Feb 10, 2006, 3:59pm
Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
 

I belive it was suggested earlier to use a larger vessel such as a French Press carafe and allow the coffee to bloom.  Once settled and extracted pour it into the Aero Press.  I use really fresh, homeroasted coffee and will probably have to do this when brewing 2 servings.  If you continue to stir and/or swirl the coffee the bloom will eventually go down.  
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