MerleApAmber Senior Member Joined: 12 Nov 2012 Posts: 210 Location: Atlanta Expertise: I love coffee
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Posted Tue Aug 20, 2013, 8:15am Subject: Re: Is it just me?
Always a very good topic. Thanks to everyone for the enjoyment of your thoughts. I, too, wish I had much better sensory acumen; but then, I also have many refined drugs of therapeutic natures within my system I can only say: Thank goodness I can find "I likes what I likes, and I wish I understood better that which just seems - off." (And dear God, what do all these things keeping me alive make my taste reactions become?)
/chuckles about descriptives at Sweet Maria's Sometimes the theater of a product is half the fun. /wink
Posted Sat Aug 24, 2013, 9:40pm Subject: Re: Is it just me?
LOL - love the thread. You think it's bad with coffee? You should try buying tea... that gets pretty wild. They're reaaaaaly trying to differentiate products.. but sometimes there's just not that much difference between two beans / teas grown within spitting distance of each other... but sometimes there is.
FWIW, I've learned to stay away from anything called 'subtle' used anywhere in the descriptor. You know when you're buying a house? It's the equivalent of 'cozy bungalow' - ie, it's a freaking shoe box for midgets (no offense meant to our vertically challenged brethren out there). I always have a cappa in the morning and for it to stand out, subtle isn't going to cut through.
Posted Sat Aug 24, 2013, 10:55pm Subject: Re: Is it just me?
Cupping is an exercise for those who have to go through lots of coffees and have to decide what to buy - that's commercial buying, utilizing varying degrees of roasting. The descriptions are not at all accurate when it comes to what actually one gets in a cup of coffee because cupping is very ritualistic with heavy weighting on aroma. Some years ago, I brought this subject up to one of the coffee professionals at an SCAA meeting in Long Beach and he agreed that what one gets in cupping may have no relation to what one ends up with in a cup of coffee. It is too bad that cupping isn't nearly as accurate as evaluating wines. So it is simply a guide, if one, as a consumer, has to buy the green coffee beans blind. Just don't get too excited about the smell of the grind, the grind when it is wet, breaking the crust, etc.
rmongiovi Senior Member Joined: 7 Feb 2006 Posts: 407 Location: Atlanta, GA Expertise: I like coffee
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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 9:08pm Subject: Re: Is it just me?
I'm quite willing to admit that a "professional" cupper has a better palate than I do. I don't even mind when they use as examples things that I haven't heard of and have no idea what they taste like. But when they use things that I can't imagine *they* know the flavor of (like coconut *husks* from my original question about the cupping notes) then I just have to call BS. Now, I suppose if Tom gets on here and swears that he actually tasted coconut husks just in case he ever came across a coffee that tasted like that, and needed precisely that description, I wouldn't be able to call him on it. I would definitely roll my eyes, though.
But if he ever describes a coffee as having a bouquet like an aborigine's armpit, I'm never buying from them again....
Seriously, do you know where I can get some of that? I'm gonna be visiting my in-laws in a few days and am dying to get some ...
"Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water." ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674
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