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cs137
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Posted Fri Jul 12, 2013, 9:36pm
Subject: will my smoke alarm go off?
 

I'm looking at buying either the SR500 or the Behmor 1600. I can get either of them for ~$125, so price is not an issue. I'm mostly concerned about the smoke from both of these machines. I live in a small apartment in Boston with virtually no ventilation, except one small window. I can use a fan to blow the smoke out this window, but I don't know how effective this will be? I also don't know how much smoke these machines actually produce. Is it possible to roast with either of these machines with no ventilation (or very little ventilation) without setting off a smoke alarm? In the cold winter months, I would prefer not to open my windows for long periods of time.

Ideally, I would like to roast for french press, aeropress, and maybe espresso. Can the Behmor roast for aeropress and espresso? I read that it is not very good at dark roasts (but does a good espresso roast need to be dark?). One final question - I'm not sure what voltage my outlet is, but I live in an old apartment so I imagine it could be quite low. Should this influence my purchasing decision?

Thanks for the help!
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Posted Fri Jul 12, 2013, 9:41pm
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Not roasting over open fire, there probably won't be much smoke, not much more than from cooking. However, there will be a strong smell, which not everyone finds pleasant.

 
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Posted Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:47pm
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I've read that the SR500 doesn't have a smoke filter, but the Behmor 1600 does have one.

Does this mean that the Behmor is actually the least smoky of the two roasters?
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Posted Sat Jul 13, 2013, 6:03am
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I roast on the kitchen stove with the range fan on low.

I have done so with a FreshRoast +8 and a Behmor 1600.  The FR+8 roasts a smaller batch (say, 4 oz) and produces less smoke but has no smoke filter.  The Behmor 1600 roasts a larger batch (say 10 oz or more) but has a smoke 'afterburner'.

I roast for Aeropress (fine grind) and BraZen (coarser grind) and also roast for my son's espresso (usually a minute into the 2CR ...Vienna?).

My smoke detectors have never gone off.  However, as a previous poster suggested, there can be the smell of (say) burnt toast that some don't like.  It clears away quickly.  

Of the two, I recommend the Behmor 1600, a more flexible machine in every way.

 
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Posted Sat Jul 13, 2013, 7:33am
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Thanks for the help! Unfortunately, I don't have a range fan, so I'm wondering how the Behmor 1600 would work if I literally have no ventilation, or if my only ventilation is a fan blowing the smoke out a window?

Would I be better off with an SR500? Thanks!
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Posted Sat Jul 13, 2013, 9:02am
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cs137 Said:

Thanks for the help! Unfortunately, I don't have a range fan, so I'm wondering how the Behmor 1600 would work if I literally have no ventilation, or if my only ventilation is a fan blowing the smoke out a window?

Would I be better off with an SR500? Thanks!

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The Behmor will be such a significantly better roaster that it would be nice to find a way to use it.  Do you have venting in the bathroom?  Could it be used close to the window with a window fan installed?
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Posted Sat Jul 13, 2013, 9:24am
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Unfortunately, no ventilation in the bathroom... It's kind of an old building. I can place a fan on the opposite side of the roaster (blowing smoke outside a window in my kitchen), but that's about it... Does the Behmor really produce too much smoke for this to work? I'm guessing that it will definitely *not* work with no ventilation? Thanks!
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Posted Sat Jul 13, 2013, 6:25pm
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cs137 Said:

Unfortunately, no ventilation in the bathroom... It's kind of an old building. I can place a fan on the opposite side of the roaster (blowing smoke outside a window in my kitchen), but that's about it...

Posted July 13, 2013 link

Instead of trying to blow air past the roaster out the window, a better way would be to use a fan that mounts in the window to pull air from the room to send it outside along with any smoke and odor.  

Here's a link to one fairly inexpensive fan that should be very effective to exhaust inside air, just for one example:

Click Here (www.homedepot.com)

If that one or similar is too large to fit your window opening, then look for other fans of that style which would fit.

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Posted Sat Jul 13, 2013, 8:32pm
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Thanks for the suggestion! I may be able to put a fan in my window to draw the air out. I'll definitely look into it. I'm also curious, just for my own information, about my original question. If anyone has any experience using the SR500 or Behmor 1600 without ventilation - or using a fan blowing the smoke out a window - could you comment on the amount of smoke produced? And which roaster would be best for my situation? The Behmor 1600, which supposedly has a smoke filter? Thanks for the help!
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Posted Sat Jul 13, 2013, 9:49pm
Subject: Re: will my smoke alarm go off?
 

This past winter I was doing 4 back to back roasts near a half open window on an SR500. The smoke was minimal- going just past first crack (1/4 lb. roasts). I always liked the lingering smell. Apparently the SR500 wasn't meant for back to back roasts with a cooling cycle between though, as it only held up for 3 years that way. I'll soon be joining the ranks of Behmor owners.

BTW could someone tell me how long between roasts is recommended on the Behmor?
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