What is wrong with BLD 1kb electric coffee roasters? Are they 1/2 as bad as the one you are pushing?
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Posted Sun Jul 28, 2013, 10:49am Subject: Re: eBay Roaster-Does Anyone Know About it?
My signature is BDL not BLD. The roaster I bought from the E-Bay seller (who might not be on E-Bay any longer) is not a BLD either, it's an Amazon.
This may come as a surprise to sesfinklbabyvox, but I've been completely honest and objective in discussing the Amazon and have not recommended it to other people over any other roaster, including the North roasters in particular.
The Amazon was slower than I'd expected; but at first it seemed that it wasn't too slow in that my initial roasts were all very good. However, when the weather warms up in Southern California power supply gets iffy in my part of the San Gabriel Valley.
Under normal conditions the Amazon has enough power to do great roasts for the 600g charge size I normally use -- and I got a couple dozen roasts to prove it. But it doesn't have headroom to do it if the power is acting up -- summer is at least four months long here -- and I've got four or five roasts to prove that!
I tried using a 20A Variac, but the roaster's power spikes caused the Variac to blow fuses every or every-other roast. Slo-blo fuses helped, but the as the fuse wasn't the only safety device on the circuit, the circuit breaker (dedicated 20A circuit) tripped all too often.
If I get up early, shut down our AC, and jump through a few other hoops, I can make the roaster work well enough to get good roasts. Alas, even then, it doesn't give me the scope to play with profiles in the ways I'd like, and the effect of the lousy electricity situation here is to make the roaster frustratingly inconsistent.
We don't have enough service for a sufficiently robust circuit to drive a "real" electric like the TJ-067 without adding another panel. Because of the expense, as well as for some other reasons, an LPG-fired roaster is a more practical choice for our particular circumstances.
I've ordered a US Roaster Corp Sample Roaster to replace the Amazon While it's considerably more expensive than any of the "comparable" Chinese gas-fired roasters I decided that it was worthwhile to spend the extra money in order to: (a) Buy a known quantity (so much for being first); (b) Join a large and established user base whose members could and would help with profiling as well as hardware advice; and (c) Buy from a company whose reps actually roasted coffee themselves; and (i) Had an outstanding and proven track record of providing support, but (ii) Which spoke English as a first language.
That's not a way of saying that everyone should use the same criteria to reach the same conclusion. There are plenty of good choices and plenty of right ways to reach any of several right destinations for the person making the choice. The Amazon could work very well for many people, and so could many of the North machines.
A final word to sesfinklbabyvox: You're not helping yourself or your company. Find some other way to advertise. Your annoying sales pressure was one small reason I decided NOT to buy a North roaster.
Posted Fri Aug 2, 2013, 6:54pm Subject: Re: eBay Roaster-Does Anyone Know About it?
Something in the Amazon -- chaff, residue, whatever -- was doing something to the smoke damper which allowed the machine to vent too much hot air. When I cleaned it off, the roaster reverted to "barely fast enough," and I got what looks like excellent results.
600g, 185C charging temp;
16min 45sec charge to drop;
Slight drag in the drying period; and
A longer one in the interval between 1st and 2d C;
Appearance of the roasted beans -- smooth, evenly colored, with very few tippers or quakers;
For a variety of reasons I'm still happy about the decision to move to a higher quality, gas fired roaster. And, of course, I wish I'd skipped the Amazon and got what I really wanted all along. At my age, I should know better.
But I think this goes to the point that there are lots of good roasters out there, and lots of different people roasting in lots of different ways. The Amazon is a good choice for someone who is very hands-on, and wants to roast "slow and gentle," and/or in the slow and deep roasted "Latin" style.
Best of all for me, there's no need fudge to sell it off, or feel bad for the buyer.
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