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mbrock
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Posted Sun Mar 3, 2013, 12:44pm
Subject: smoke and smell concern
 

hey everyone. i am ready to get into home roasting but i am trying to determine if i am crazy for attempting it. i live in a condo unit with no garage. i know it is probably ideal to roast in a garage because of smoke and smell. do any of you roast indoors with either the behmor 1600 or the freshroast sr500? I am not as concerned about batch size as I am about smoke. also, how bad is the smell? does it linger?
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Posted Mon Mar 4, 2013, 6:28am
Subject: Re: smoke and smell concern
 

I absolutely love the smell of roasted beans,but I've never done it. We don't want to risk setting off the smoke
alarms, right?
BUT You might want to try out roasting a small amount first. Cause some users won't mind of the WONDERFUL smell of
roasted beans, while for others...well it's TOO overwhelming.

Try Behmor 1600, as I checked, it has a feature of smoke removal. I think it'd be best to borrow from a friend to check if it would work
out in your location.

 
Did you know...? Dark roast coffees actually have less caffeine than lighter roasts due to the fact that the process of roasting burns off caffeine.
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Posted Mon Mar 4, 2013, 7:31am
Subject: Re: smoke and smell concern
 

Amount of smoke depends on two things; size of load roasted and how long the beans remain in the roaster after first crack.
A good home-sized stove vent (one that actually goes outside) will do a good job on roaster loads up to 500 grams. Cat converters scrub the smoke,
but leave an unpleasant odor.

If you have a good dryer vent, this might work. But many apartment dryer vent systems are a tangle of plastic that might melt, so check it out:

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Posted Mon Mar 4, 2013, 10:54am
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oldgearhead Said:

so check it out:

Posted March 4, 2013 link

Down right sexy OGH.
Willing to share your parts list with mfg's numbers and vendor???

I'm considering assembling my own fume enclosure/hood and THAT looks very very lovely indeed.
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Posted Mon Mar 4, 2013, 12:46pm
Subject: Re: smoke and smell concern
 

I tried roasting inside with the behmor once, the first time I roasted. I will not try again, as all the carbon monoxide and smoke detectors went crazy, even though the roaster was just under the stove vent. I was only roasting a quarter of pound.

If you do decide to roast inside anyway, make sure to have a carbon monoxide detector, and know the symptoms of a CO intoxication: dizziness is probably the first of them. If it happens, press the  cool button, and go outside.

Indeed the behmor has a smoke suppressor. You can barely see any smoke, but it is still there.

Hope that helps.
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Posted Mon Mar 4, 2013, 12:56pm
Subject: Re: smoke and smell concern
 

MerleApAmber Said:

Down right sexy OGH.
Willing to share your parts list with mfg's numbers and vendor???

I'm considering assembling my own fume enclosure/hood and THAT looks very very lovely indeed.

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The cyclone vendor is on ebay:
Click Here (www.ebay.com)

Have you seen this five pound roaster (smoker) with cyclone and vac?
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Posted Mon Mar 4, 2013, 1:49pm
Subject: Re: smoke and smell concern
 

Thanks everyone. looks like I will be headed to the porch!
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Posted Mon Mar 4, 2013, 3:37pm
Subject: Re: smoke and smell concern
 

oldgearhead Said:

Have you seen this five pound roaster (smoker) with cyclone and vac?
_

Posted March 4, 2013 link

I did indeed. It's a long video, but quite an interesting fluid bed system.
- Nice to know there's someone out there making a hobbyist level extractor cyclone for the home shop. 5 to 900 cfm sounds just fine - And I can use it for my wood working gear too!
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Posted Mon Mar 4, 2013, 6:11pm
Subject: Re: smoke and smell concern
 

The smell of ROASTING beans is definitely not as nice as the aroma of roasted beans.

The many many compounds produced while roasting are not good things to have inside the house.

 
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Posted Tue Mar 5, 2013, 7:27am
Subject: Re: smoke and smell concern
 

Prof Said:

The smell of ROASTING beans is definitely not as nice as the aroma of roasted beans.

The many many compounds produced while roasting are not good things to have inside the house.

Posted March 4, 2013 link

+1

I roast in a very large garage by volume with a 2lb batch size machine that is exhausted outside however when dumping the beans a good amount of smoke enter the room. The problem occurs after two to three hours of roasting, I will get nauseous and dizzy and a break is mandatory. I am looking into large air scrubbers to clean the volume of air in the garage since directly venting the air is a problem for the extreme cold and extreme hot and don't want to draw in outside air during the extreme seasons.
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