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alnica
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Posted Sun Nov 18, 2012, 12:41pm
Subject: Is the Behmor for me?
 

Hi,

Firstly sorry if what follows is a basic question already answered before. I have read many threads and reviews on the Behmor and canīt seem to get a definite answer to what i am looking for.

I am interested in roasting batches of (at least) 1/2lb of coffee on a weekly basis and I will be using nearly always strictly hard bean / high altitude single origin coffee. I drink espresso almost exclusively, so am looking at dark, dark roasts. The voltaage in my house varies from about 110 to 116v.

I will be travelling to the US in the coming months and hope to bring back a roaster (home roasters non existent where I live). The question is: Is the Behmor for me? If not, what alternative could I go for at a similar (or lesser price)?

I should say I live in Nicaragua, where my supply of green coffee comes from (almost all decent coffee here is SHB, and I would buy directly from the producers). Apart from a few attempts at roasting (aka burning) coffee on an earthenware plate over an open fire, roasting is new to me.

Al
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Nickfrogger
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Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Sun Nov 18, 2012, 1:17pm
Subject: Re: Is the Behmor for me?
 

Hey Al,
   I roast about the same 1/2 pound batch sizes perhaps twice a week and the Behmor is great for those amounts. I do roast quite a few espresso profile beans, but I don't roast them dark, just a bit slower. It isn't designed to roast past (or into) 2nd crack, and the manual (and Joe) repeatedly warn against doing so. If you're willing to experiment with lighter espresso profiles, I'd recommend it 100%.

By the way, enjoying the Silvia immensely!

~Nick

Edit: One other thing, the Behmor seems really impacted by electricity available. I don't normally roast a full pound, but the few times I've roasted batches that large, the roaster struggled to get past 1st crack. Hope that helps.

 
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Posted Mon Nov 19, 2012, 7:11am
Subject: Re: Is the Behmor for me?
 

I agree.  I was in the exact same boat.  Espresso drinker 1/2 batches per week.  Once I learned that dark roasts burn away most of the flavour when roasting I stick to light to medium roasts. The darkest I go is FC which is what the Behmor is made to handle.  If you're stuck on dark roasts I would consider a fluid bed roaster like the fresh roast or something more expensive like the Hottop.
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Posted Mon Nov 19, 2012, 7:57am
Subject: Re: Is the Behmor for me?
 

I must be blessed with great electricity - maybe living in the city helps - but I can take a half pound roast through second crack using the P3 A 1/2 lb setting by adding only a little extra time. I had a SHB bean mass roasting in there that I thought would stall so I bumped the plus button and added max time. If i had left it alone then FC, FC+ for sure but instead I have some expensive dark oily Gesha on hand now - oops.

The moral to the story: this roaster will take the beans where ever you want them to go just like the other more expensive options. It is a great roaster.

 
I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
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Posted Mon Nov 19, 2012, 9:12am
Subject: Re: Is the Behmor for me?
 

Eric is right.  I say it's built for FC because if your constantly roasting dark you will have to clean the sensors and the internals if the Behmor more often.  Tricking the machine (Roast 1/2lb on the 1lb setting will also allow you to roast past FC.  Keep in mind that once you hit C2 your gonna get a lot of smoke.

alnica,  If you decide to purchase the Behmor and you are roasting Vienna or darker I would just to a Simple Green clean & Dry burn every 2-3 roasts and take the after burner casing off and make sure things are clean say every 3 months or so and you should be fine.
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Nickfrogger
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Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:08am
Subject: Re: Is the Behmor for me?
 

I suppose I should mention, the wiring of the house I was renting until recently was really shoddy. Somehow the kitchen was on the same breaker as my upstairs room, so who knows what else might have been running from the same line? When my PID was cycling, the lights in the whole house would flicker... it was a scary place to live. Either way, I still didn't mind because the Behmor got the job done. So I guess that refutes my last edit :D

 
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Posted Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:09am
Subject: Re: Is the Behmor for me?
 

The Behmor is a great value for it's price.

I roast 10 oz (green) set for 1 lb. and that yields a bit more than half a pound 'as roasted'.  I have no trouble getting well into the 2CR.  My line voltage is usually 120.  

You might discover, after using a good, well-designed roaster, that you prefer a lighter roast, perhaps 30 seconds into the 2CR, dark brown with a slight sheen of oil.  That was my experience.

 
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alnica
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Posted Mon Nov 19, 2012, 8:30pm
Subject: Re: Is the Behmor for me?
 

Thanks to all for your insight. As I will be a complete novice roaster I hadn't even given much thought to anything other than a dark-dark espresso roast, so great to know there are other slightly lighter options out there for espresso short of full city. That and the option to roast less weight on a full pound setting seems like part of the experimenting I will soon be getting in to. There doesn't seem to be any other similar priced roasters out there on a par with the Behmor, so it looks like I might go down that route and start experimenting.... very soon :)

Nick, great to know the Silvia has worked out for you!
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Posted Tue Nov 20, 2012, 5:42am
Subject: Re: Is the Behmor for me?
 

I confirmed what EricBNC said.  I roasted an espresso blend last night 1/2lb (227g) on P3 full 15min roast.  I had to kill the roast over 2min early because I had already hit 2C with around 2min to spare.  If I had left it I would have had a very dark roast.

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Posted Tue Nov 20, 2012, 6:40am
Subject: Re: Is the Behmor for me?
 

One big plus in your situation is parts availability. Here in the US Behmor has great customer support and I assume it would be the same for you. It might be a good idea to check with them about international parts shipping.
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