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Daptin
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Posted Sat Oct 27, 2012, 7:07pm
Subject: ROASTING... should I bother to give it a shot?
 

Please don't roast me... I'm a fellow espresso lover. My grandmother had green coffee shipped from Congo, then roasted it in her oven to brew a decent Melitta cup. I followed the traditional route: first I got a Rancilio Sivla, soon followed by a doserless Rocky grinder, then I installed the thermostat. I live in the Republic of Panama where I can get decent roasted Arabica. Just as good as the Colombian Juan Valdez, but Costa Rica's beans are slightly more impressive. For an occasional treat, I purchase Italian beans from Danesi, roasted to perfection (as only Italians can). Should I try roasting? I don't want to spend $1000 + for one of these machines. Your suggestions are highly welcome.
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Posted Sat Oct 27, 2012, 8:51pm
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If the beans you get are less than two weeks roasted, then maybe not.  A Behmor at $299 (US) will let you learn more about roasting to the point where you will make roasts that you like better than what you are buying now.

Spend $900 for more control (Hottop) and you might have a shorter learning curve.

Then you can ramp up your hobby with a better grinder and then a better espresso machine.  Yes, it could be an ever expanding obsession.  :)

 
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Posted Sun Oct 28, 2012, 6:28pm
Subject: Re: ROASTING... should I bother to give it a shot?
 

I'm totally a newbie to the roasting world so my advice might not be the greatest....

But I'm telling you I just started roasting and it's turned out pretty awesome so far.

I followed the advice on Sweet Maria's and I easily found a hot air popper at a local thrift shop for $4. I bought green beans for $8 a pound from a local shop (which may be a bit high, not sure yet).

I brewed two different types of coffee and I just finished off both of my first two attempts tonight. I must say it turned out pretty amazing.

The coffee was at least as good as what I would have bought roasted locally and I know exactly when it was roasted and it was exactly the level of roast I wanted.

I figure for basically a $12 investment I got to try something really great....and it turned out amazing.

If you can get a cheap popper you should definitely try it, you really have only a small investment to lose if you don't like it. It's nice to know my beans were less than a week old and that I roasted them myself.

If you hate it, you can probably resell the popper for the price of your investment if not more. I paid $4 locally, but I could easily resell for $35 on the internet if I wanted.

Let us know how it works out.
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Posted Sun Oct 28, 2012, 7:43pm
Subject: Re: ROASTING... should I bother to give it a shot?
 

Thank you Prof, I'm still figuring out if I should dip my toes in the water. Silvia and Rocky are just fine, at least for me... this is an expensive hobby already. The Behmor looks a bit big for me. The Hottop is a bit expensive. Think I'll wait. The problem in Panama is that any beans you find at your local supermarket have been toasted one or two months earlier. I went to the "beneficio" (the factory where they process coffee) of Café Durán for a couple of months, where I would buy a 5 Lbs package at the Durán store, then exchanged it fresh from the factory line, but it was a big hassle.
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Daptin
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Posted Sun Oct 28, 2012, 7:49pm
Subject: Re: ROASTING... should I bother to give it a shot?
 

Thank you Dorkroast, this sounds like a less expensive alternative. I've yet to locate the advice on Sweet Maria's, but it sounds like I could use a popcorn popper. Is that it? I might try that route, if only to find out if I get better results than the local roasters.
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Posted Sun Oct 28, 2012, 8:46pm
Subject: Re: ROASTING... should I bother to give it a shot?
 

Make sure the popper has the air grills on the side, not the bottom, or a chaff fire could occur.
At least 1250 watts best.

 
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Posted Mon Oct 29, 2012, 2:07pm
Subject: Re: ROASTING... should I bother to give it a shot?
 

Daptin Said:

Thank you Dorkroast, this sounds like a less expensive alternative. I've yet to locate the advice on Sweet Maria's, but it sounds like I could use a popcorn popper. Is that it? I might try that route, if only to find out if I get better results than the local roasters.

Posted October 28, 2012 link

If you have green beans then you just need to add heat. A pot on the stove while stirring with a spoon or whisk has worked for the Ethiopians since the dawn of roasting coffee, might work for you as well and I bet you already have the equipment. As mentioned popcorn poppers are a great low budget setup and with some modding they can work very nicely. Another low budget for larger batches is the bread machine/Heat gun (BMHG) setup that does over a pound a roast and can be rigged with bean mass temperature probes and good control over the roast. There really are many DIYer setups that are very affordable that will compete with any commercial machines roast.
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Posted Mon Oct 29, 2012, 5:03pm
Subject: Re: ROASTING... should I bother to give it a shot?
 

Thank you IMAwriter and GermantownRob, I'm defiintely willing to explore low-budget alternatives. Any recommendation to search for modding and DIY? Are some popcorn popper brands more suitable than others?
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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2012, 9:26pm
Subject: Re: ROASTING... should I bother to give it a shot?
 

Yep, it's as easy as buying an old air popcorn popper. I purchased a "Popcorn Pumper" for $3.99. So far I've roasted about 2 pounds of coffee in it and it has turned out great.

Hopefully you can find the videos on Sweet Marias. It really is as easy as it looks.  It only took me once to figure out how to do it without setting off all the smoke detectors in the house. :)

As others have said, it can be as simple as roasting them in a pan or even in a basket over open flame.

Best of luck, hope you find something that works for you.
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