Chris_S Senior Member Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 88 Location: South Dakota Expertise: I love coffee
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Posted Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:21am Subject: Re: Data Logging
Jim, I'm hoping you are subscribed to this thread and get this post. I thought I would keep it going. I was wondering if you could set the TC4 Software up on a tablet?
I know that windows will be coming out with a windows based tablet for windows 8. I'm not sure if it would be possible to use windows's table and get the software working on it, but I also wondered about android based tablets.
I've recently started looking into turning a laptop into a linux OS and I've been trying to come back here to reference what I need to do to get it onto Ubuntu. I know enough computer tech stuff to get me in trouble, by no means an expert, but isn't android a linux based software?
BTW...love the TC4 and data logging. I'm hoping to get into it even more this winter now that I've moved into a place of my own.
JGG Senior Member Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 1,343 Location: Kentucky, US Expertise: I like coffee
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Posted Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:30pm Subject: Re: Data Logging
Hi, Chris
The Bourbon application that "talks" to a TC4 device is a Processing application. In theory, any machine that runs the Processing environment should run Bourbon. I've used it successfully on Ubuntu and Windows XP.
Lately, though, I have been steering people towards RoastLogger. It works seemlessly with a TC4 device and has a nice set of features. It's a Java application so should run on a number of platforms. I dunno if it will run on any tablets, but I'd say it has a much better chance than Bourbon. The RoastLoggerTC4 sketch has some improvements, too, from the aBourbon sketch.
Artisan also works well with a TC4 device, but I doubt it could run on any tablet.
Chris_S Senior Member Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 88 Location: South Dakota Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: rancilio silvia, moka,... Grinder: rocky Vac Pot: no Drip: aeropress and press pot Roaster: hottop & poppery II
Posted Fri Jul 20, 2012, 9:51am Subject: Re: Data Logging
Thanks Jim,
I initially was having trouble with Bourbon if I'm remembering right. I've been using Artisan, and like the overall feel for it. Have you used RoastLogger much? I'd like to know your opinion of how it compares to Artisan.
With Artisan I like the how I can set a backround (previous roast profile) and try and match the roast. I've been using the notes for each roast stating how the roast did. Then I recorded different brewing methods and what my thoughts were. I haven't made it into the cupping graph yet but I like the feature. I also like the feature of saving an HTML doc. with all the info on it. I've just glanced at the Roast Logger, but I'm wondering if it has similar features and how user friendly it is. It looks free and I will have to take a look at it sometime soon.
Its a bummer to hear that Artisan probably wouldn't work on any tablet, but do you think there would be hope when microsoft comes out with a windows based tablet or would that even matter?
JGG Senior Member Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 1,343 Location: Kentucky, US Expertise: I like coffee
Espresso: PID Silvia; PID Alexia Grinder: Mazzer Mini E (A), SJ; Rocky... Roaster: Hottop D w/PID; Thermometric...
Posted Fri Jul 20, 2012, 12:41pm Subject: Re: Data Logging
If Artisan is working for you, then I have no reason to suggest a change.
I have used RoastLogger quite a bit, primarily choosing it over Artisan because I can closely control my Hottop heater and fan using RoastLogger. It also has a semi-automatic profiling tool that, once tweaked for your roaster, can fully automate most roasts with excellent results.
On my slow-ish laptop, RoastLogger is more responsive than Artisan, which lags noticeably when I use programmable event buttons to control the roaster. I speculated that Artisan would have difficulty on a tablet because of the size of the code, but that was the only reason.
Chris_S Senior Member Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 88 Location: South Dakota Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: rancilio silvia, moka,... Grinder: rocky Vac Pot: no Drip: aeropress and press pot Roaster: hottop & poppery II
Posted Mon Jul 23, 2012, 1:29pm Subject: Re: Data Logging
Jim, I was wondering if artisan works/installs on the latest Ubuntu 12.4? I installed Ubuntu on my laptop and started going through the instructions for artisan. I'm really green with Linux so bear with me. I ran the .deb file and tried to install through the software center. I don't think it's installing. Usually once it's installed it gives me the option to remove, but this gives me the option to reinstall, which doesn't seem to do anything either. I went to the terminal and typed artisan but nothing.
I wasn't sure if I would have to install similar to the Debian instructions. If so my inexperience with Linux is going to take a little time to understand the terminal and commands.
On my slow-ish laptop, RoastLogger is more responsive than Artisan, which lags noticeably when I use programmable event buttons to control the roaster.
I use an older slow laptop also, and I noticed the lagging buttons.
JGG Senior Member Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 1,343 Location: Kentucky, US Expertise: I like coffee
Espresso: PID Silvia; PID Alexia Grinder: Mazzer Mini E (A), SJ; Rocky... Roaster: Hottop D w/PID; Thermometric...
Posted Mon Jul 23, 2012, 3:11pm Subject: Re: Data Logging
I never tried the "easy" way, but I was successful in configuring my Ubuntu machine to be able to run Artisan directly from the python source. It required downloading and installing several python libraries. But in the end it worked very well.
Before spending a lot of time getting Artisan to run on your Ubuntu machine, I suggest you give RoastLogger a try. It ran immediately on my Ubuntu laptop, and it only requires java.
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