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Posted Fri May 23, 2008, 7:08am
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I am curious how many of you put 1/4, 1/2 or 1lb of beans in set the behmor for appropriate weight and are then able to get into second crack.
On occasion I can just get to second other times not. I have 118 volts no load 117 under load.  Perhaps I should consider pre heating the beans in the range to 100 or something.
any thoughts?
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Posted Fri May 23, 2008, 8:21am
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jghoo Said:

I am curious how many of you put 1/4, 1/2 or 1lb of beans in set the behmor for appropriate weight and are then able to get into second crack.
On occasion I can just get to second other times not. I have 118 volts no load 117 under load.  Perhaps I should consider pre heating the beans in the range to 100 or something.
any thoughts?

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I always use 1lb no matter what my load.

I wish I had your voltage consistency.  I start out at anywhere from 118 to 123 (depending on time of day) and usually get a 4+ volt drop under full load.  I need a variac.

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Posted Fri May 23, 2008, 8:49am
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I have the same experience.

For this reason, I usually roast 6 oz. on the 1/2 lb. setting.  If not, you may not get enough roast time.

If you want to go to a larger roast, just use the 1 lb. setting and load in no more than 14 oz.

I would imagine that pre heating the beans is not a good idea and it's unnecessary if you do it this way.
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Posted Fri May 23, 2008, 9:19am
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Nor me. Due to voltage issues, I always undercharge, and use the 1# setting for everything. Sometimes I dip to 109 during the 100% segments of the ramp curve, but still have no trouble getting to 2C at finish, having added a few extra +++ as needed. I don't think there is a 'set-it/forget it' profile to get consistency anymore, and I man the cool button and kill as appropriate, just like a pro roaster would. I'm still only comfortable with P1 and P2, depending on my origin, as a result of my voltage issues..I just don't think a subtle ramp change will actually be played out properly when voltage is so far off. Regardless, the roasts produced by bimmer are outstanding.
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Posted Fri May 23, 2008, 10:17am
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jghoo Said:

I am curious how many of you put 1/4, 1/2 or 1lb of beans in set the behmor for appropriate weight and are then able to get into second crack.
On occasion I can just get to second other times not. I have 118 volts no load 117 under load.  Perhaps I should consider pre heating the beans in the range to 100 or something.
any thoughts?

Posted May 23, 2008 link

The Behmor's weight settings are only to limit max time of the roast, and were apparently decided more for "safety" reasons than roasting reasons.  Don't feel limited by them.
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Posted Fri May 23, 2008, 10:20am
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"The Behmor's weight settings are only to limit max time of the roast, and were apparently decided more for "safety" reasons than roasting reasons.  Don't feel limited by them."



Well then lets put it this way. Is anyone roasting 1lb at a time?
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Posted Fri May 23, 2008, 10:46am
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I use 454 grams always.

I am thinking of doing 400-425 gm because this new bean (Guat - Coban) doesn't go to 2nd crack as fast as Nic Matagalpa.

Also, I think I noticed that roasting at night goes to 2c faster than in the day.

Maybe I have higher current at night, due to lower demand ???
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Posted Fri May 23, 2008, 11:04am
Subject: Re:  How many of you are using the Behmor at the specified weight
 

brewer3401 Said:

I use 454 grams always.
I am thinking of doing 400-425 gm because this new bean (Guat - Coban) doesn't go to 2nd crack as fast as Nic Matagalpa.
Also, I think I noticed that roasting at night goes to 2c faster than in the day.
Maybe I have higher current at night, due to lower demand ???

Posted May 23, 2008 link

Yeah, "voltage irregularities" is the current thinking, so to speak.  You have a great voltage grid, so enjoy the 1# loads.  

Many of us have to downsize the loads a bit.  But since I don't use more than 1/2# per week, roasting with 1/2# on (P2) (1#) seems to be a great combination for my needs.  Or (P5) for Kona, or (P4) for blends, etc.  

Are there any roasters which are "set it and forget it?"  For the home I doubt it.  Too many risks with toddlers, pets, inattention, etc.

 
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Posted Fri May 23, 2008, 11:09am
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Set and forget.........kind of.

I set a timer for 15 minutes when I start the roast.

I also max out my time on the Behmor.

Timer goes off, I go outside and sit waiting for 1 and 2c.
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Posted Fri May 23, 2008, 12:19pm
Subject: Re: how many of you are using the Behmor at the specified weight
 

to my knowledge the Behmor is rated at 115 volts, correct. Most people have 115v. I get the impression most people are downsizing the batch. To be honest I am having issues with the weight rating on this machine. Most everyone undersizes their load. I cant say how many times I've had to throw out beans because they dont reach 2nd crack. Why do I need to underload. I have the rated voltage. The beans are at room temp. The issue is not that i can put in 1/2lb and set for 1lb. The machine profiles are based on the designated weight, correct? How is this machine supposed to be for the masses if you cant even use the presets. I think these are honest questions. I think for the most part we have been so busy slobbering all over this machine we wont even admit it may not work as marketed. Joe is a really great guy and has sent out replacements. I waited nearly 6 mo to even mention what I have felt for a long time.
Yes it does roast coffee well. will it do it consistently the way the manual and control panel are set up, no.

It is not my intention to start a major issue here. I was made aware of the machine here and thus feel some right to state my thoughts about it here.

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