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Posted Mon May 12, 2008, 12:57am
Subject: Sad Day
 

The event I have been dreading just occured.  The roast heater in my Z&D appears to have burned out.
It happened at the early part of a roast.

I think I saved the coffee.  I dumped the beans into a bowl, then into my HWP. It took three batches with the HWP to complete the Z&D charge.  Since the Z&D has a cat I've become careless about turning on the range hood so I set off the smoke alarm.

I haven't opened the machine yet but piliminary tests point to the roast heater.  Since I have been dumping nearly 700 Watts into the heater Mr. Zack and Mr. Danni intended for 400 Watts for several years it was bound to happen.

The pain is that Nesco won't supply the heater so I'll have to get some Nicrome wire and make my own.

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Posted Tue May 13, 2008, 12:49am
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I dissassembled the machine tonight and the roast heater is toast.  The wire is weak and brittle near the break.

I have a parts machine. As I remember the roast heater it it didn't look too good but if it is useable I'll attempt to use it untill I can get some Nichrome wire and rebuild my unit.

If I can't get it working real soon, the Behmor is looking real good.

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Posted Tue May 13, 2008, 5:58am
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Phil, Sorry to hear. Good luck with your transplant operation! Once the donor organ arrives. Our coffee equipment becomes very personal to us, I can feel your pain.
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Posted Tue May 13, 2008, 6:56am
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PJK Said:

I dissassembled the machine tonight and the roast heater is toast.  The wire is weak and brittle near the break.

I have a parts machine. As I remember the roast heater it it didn't look too good but if it is useable I'll attempt to use it untill I can get some Nichrome wire and rebuild my unit.

If I can't get it working real soon, the Behmor is looking real good.

Phil

Posted May 13, 2008 link

Phil,

Can you supply a picture of what the assembly looks like ( ahh,  looked like)?
Do you have schematics that you can get ahold of regarding the setup?

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Posted Tue May 13, 2008, 8:37am
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Sounds like the perfect excuse for an upgrade to me.

 
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Posted Tue May 13, 2008, 9:18am
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Thanks for the condolances guys.

It is truly harder to part with something which you have either built or customized.

Len, a PDF scematic of my connection to the roast heater is on page 4 of this string: http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/coffee/homeroast/29149

I believe there is also a simplified schematic of my roast control variable transformer.  I had promised a full schemo of it but I haven't gotten around to tracing it out.  When I built it I could have done it from memory.  I should not have procrastinated.

I'll try to take a picture of the Z&D roast heater and post it.

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Posted Wed May 14, 2008, 11:34pm
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I removed the roast heater and shot some pictures.  This one is the top view of the heater. The hole in the center is where the hot air passes up to the roast chamber.  The screw holes are for the small screws around the aluminum base upon the roast chamber sits.

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Posted Wed May 14, 2008, 11:46pm
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This is a picture of the bottom.  The small hole in the center is where the auger drive shaft passes.  Note the broken off piece of mica.  That stuff is fragile even when new.  After years of flogging my 400 Watt heater wit nearly 700 Watts it is very fragile.  The black RTV on the leads is not original.  I used it the secure the leads when I rerouted them to my added relay.

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Posted Wed May 14, 2008, 11:51pm
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This is the side view of the roast heater where the break is located.  The Nicrome wire near the break is badly oxidized and very brittle.

Phil

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