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BoyntonStu
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Posted Sat Nov 25, 2006, 9:16am
Subject: Re: First roast in un-assisted bread machine.
 

As seen with the lid closed.

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Posted Sat Nov 25, 2006, 11:44am
Subject: Re: First roast in un-assisted bread machine.
 

FYI  Coffeesnobs.com is an Australian coffee forum site and about a week ago they started a separate title in the home-roasting section for Bread Machine roasting info. They mostly do a BM/HG setup so far.   http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?board=roasting

 
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Posted Tue Nov 28, 2006, 1:39pm
Subject: Re: First roast in un-assisted bread machine.  Update
 

I roasted 4 batches so far.

It is becoming almost routine.

Turn on motor and heater.

Wait about 7 minutes until the thermometer reaches 350.

Introduce green beans.

In about 5 minutes the temperature is about 470.

Turn off heater.

Coast through the roast and observe bean color.   The temp remains constant without the heater.

I live in sunny Florida and I roast outside.  I use a little hand mirror and sunlight to look into the roaster.  Nothing comes close to seeing the true colors.

Turn off stirrer motor.


Using gloves, remove the tub and place it on the ground.


Use the cool setting of a hair dryer to blast the beans in the tub to cool them and to expel all the chaff.


It is very straightforward and it is becoming quite predictable.


Get a BM at Goodwill for a few bucks and try it.
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Posted Tue Nov 28, 2006, 2:18pm
Subject: Re: First roast in un-assisted bread machine.  Update
 

Stu     Congrads!!!  Sounds like your on the way. You probally good a nice even roast with the BM too. Could you put a dimmer switch or something on your heating element to be able to fine tune your heat output? Did you check out the BM activity on coffeesnobs.com you should put a pic and description on their BM listings. Ed

 
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Posted Tue Nov 28, 2006, 3:35pm
Subject: Re: First roast in un-assisted bread machine.  Update
 

farmroast Said:

Stu     Congrads!!!  Sounds like your on the way. You probally good a nice even roast with the BM too. Could you put a dimmer switch or something on your heating element to be able to fine tune your heat output? Did you check out the BM activity on coffeesnobs.com you should put a pic and description on their BM listings. Ed

Posted November 28, 2006 link

Yes, a 600 watt ordinary dimmer would be fine to control the 500 watt heating element.

However, using the thermometer, you can adjust the temp to within ~ 10F with the on/off switch and the thermal mass keeps it uniform for a roast.


I expect that a dimmer set point could be found where an equilibrium temperature could be achieved.  (assuming a constant RT).

I applied at the coffeesnobs website but to date, no response.

Please help me there if you have a contact and I will post my photos.


AFAIK This the the first un-assisted BM.  All the others that I have seen use a CO or a HG.


I also enjoy removing the chaff and cooling  by using the hair blower.


When are you plugging in yours?
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Posted Tue Nov 28, 2006, 4:45pm
Subject: Re: First roast in un-assisted bread machine.  Update
 

BoyntonStu Said:

Yes, a 600 watt ordinary dimmer would be fine to control the 500 watt heating element.

However, using the thermometer, you can adjust the temp to within ~ 10F with the on/off switch and the thermal mass keeps it uniform for a roast.


I expect that a dimmer set point could be found where an equilibrium temperature could be achieved.  (assuming a constant RT).

I applied at the coffeesnobs website but to date, no response.

Please help me there if you have a contact and I will post my photos.


AFAIK This the the first un-assisted BM.  All the others that I have seen use a CO or a HG.


I also enjoy removing the chaff and cooling  by using the hair blower.


When are you plugging in yours?

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   This is my present baby   http://coffee-roasting.blogspot.com/                                    A friend wants a roaster and I picked up another BM at the thrift shop so I will try your style this time.   Ya might just try registering again at coffeesnob  my confirmation happened quickly as I remember. The Aussie BM units are still primitive, mostly HG but at present it's the buzz down under. Ed

 
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Posted Thu Nov 30, 2006, 5:22pm
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No doubt now.

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Posted Sun Dec 10, 2006, 9:32am
Subject: Re: Temperature run up test
 

BoyntonStu Said:

Today I discovered that indeed the thermal link had opened.

Shorted across it and installed an oven thermometer.

within 10 minutes it was up to 500*F!


Too hot IMHO.


I intend to heat it up to 475*F and manually adjust to maintain.


The thermometer is very visible from the top window.

Posted November 23, 2006 link

Based on your interesting journey with a stock Breadman, I found one at a local Goodwill and brought it home.  I haven't had a chance to plug it in and make sure it works, but if so...  How did you find and short across the thermal link?  I'm only moderately electrically inclined (I'll run conduit and wire up new switches and outlets, but evaluating electronics is a bit hazy for me), and I'm not sure what I'm looking for.

This sounds like such a great way to get into roasting for cheap that will likely be able to handle medium size batches, and have excellent temperature/time control.

I love to fiddle... :^)

Best,
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Posted Mon Dec 11, 2006, 9:48am
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Christopher_01 Said:

Based on your interesting journey with a stock Breadman, I found one at a local Goodwill and brought it home.  I haven't had a chance to plug it in and make sure it works, but if so...  How did you find and short across the thermal link?  I'm only moderately electrically inclined (I'll run conduit and wire up new switches and outlets, but evaluating electronics is a bit hazy for me), and I'm not sure what I'm looking for.

This sounds like such a great way to get into roasting for cheap that will likely be able to handle medium size batches, and have excellent temperature/time control.

I love to fiddle... :^)

Best,
Christopher

Posted December 10, 2006 link

There are 2 things to remove, the thermostat and the thermal link.

Simple!  Just remove both units and wire around them.  Or, just clip out each unit and wire nut the wires.

I re-used the press on clips.

Another hint:  Open and close the lid for temp control.

Stu (First UBM roaster)  un-assisted BM.
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Posted Sat Dec 8, 2012, 8:52am
Subject: Re: First roast in un-assisted bread machine.
 

This is a very old thread but I'm interested in this method. I was originally going to use a hg/bm. If anyone has been using this method I would be interested in hearing the results. If the OP has some feedback on quality of roast. Since this method isn't using hot air then is it more of a drum roast profile?

Thanks,
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