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Posted Mon Apr 7, 2014, 9:52am
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Manitobanerd Said:

Its true, i have barely had real espresso, but will try freshly roasted, probably a dark or medium/dark roast espresso from a cafe near me when I get the chance (I dont have a car, and will possibly order online too).

Posted April 7, 2014 link

Forty Ninth Parallels is a roaster up there I see mentioned many times for Canada. Not sure about your area.
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Posted Mon Apr 7, 2014, 1:42pm
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I did some research and found a cafe serving 49th parallel, as well as some others. Thanks for the recommendation. It may be a while before I get the chance to make it there but it should be an eye opener, compared to stale Charbucks! I might even bring a bag home to try!
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Posted Mon Apr 7, 2014, 2:25pm
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I will take McDonald's coffee over Starbucks, and it is actually superior to some pretentious coffee houses. How is it Starbucks doesn't produce a better....... oh right, marketing.
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Posted Tue Apr 8, 2014, 5:53pm
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I found the coffee house article on the homepage to be a very interesting read. One thing I've thought about lately concerning syrups, bad shops tend have a display of various bulk syrups, good shops still have a few of the same bottles on hand; torini, monin, and da vinci. It may not be as extensive, but still it's unoriginal. For example, simple syrup; basically sugar water, can easily be made in minutes. Many bartenders make their own, why don't more coffee shops? You can make it in so many different ways using raw sugar, turbano sugar, cane sugar, brown sugars, fruit sugars, and other types. Fruit, spices, and natural flavor can be added to liven it up. Honestly, even though I'm not big into sweetening my coffee drinks, if there's a syrup or ingredient they can add to complement the coffee instead of masking, I'll be interested. Think of Turkish coffee with Cardamon; or New Orleans style Cafe Au lait with chicory. Both seem unusual, but somehow works and the result is quite enjoyable. Now I want a Vietnamese Ca Phe Sua da... Ugh, it's too late...
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Posted Thu Apr 10, 2014, 7:07am
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Starbucks :-)
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Posted Fri Apr 11, 2014, 7:44pm
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Midweek, I took an all day trip for some food and shopping to a town about 3 hours away, leaving early with a big cup of home roasted, home brew.  I managed to make that last for about an hour.  Since I then needed to stop for a break, I pulled into a McD, and since they were doing their free morning coffee giveaway, grabbed a coffee for me and one for the wife.  It was pretty good, certainly drinkable.  Late afternoon, heading back home, the wife needed a coffee.  I passed by a coffee shop that I'd been to a couple years back.  I didn't think it was too good then, but thought if they were still in business, they might have improved.  Two small coffees out of a pump pot and we're back on the road.  The quality of that coffee was really bad. When we dumped  them, they were still about 3/4 full.  I just found a Tripadvisor rating on the place and it was at 4.5 stars for about 20 comments.  Apparently there are many people who just have no clue on what good coffee should taste like, or maybe have no taste at all!  Next stop was for gas about 30 minutes out.  Since we still needed some good coffee, I thought there might be a chance for some here, since they were advertising what sounded like it might be good coffee in one of the windows, and I'm often optimistic that a good looking sign means good coffee.  Wrong choice again!!  By that time, we were coffeed out from two bad choices.  We figured we would wait for good coffee at home.  

I don't know if the McD free coffee giveaway was promoting a new coffee blend or method, but what I had there in the morning was a whole lot better than that afternoon swill we picked up.

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Posted Sat Apr 12, 2014, 2:10pm
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I actually really like McDonalds iced coffee. I even surprisingly liked a shot of their espresso. I find it goes good with a bacon and egg mcmuffin or big mac & fries.
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Posted Sun Apr 13, 2014, 4:57am
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I'm going to post again....I shouldn't but what the hell:

Take a frozen Pizza, keep it in it's box, and the pizza in it's wrapping with whatever cardboard or foam disk is in there to keep it straight. with a 900W-1000W Microwave, set it to 8m and Microwave that sucker....give it 10m if you want. Then open and Enjoy!!!!....then go to a good Pizzeria where they hand make their own Pizzas and cook in a wood fired oven. Which one did you like best.

This to me personally is the difference in what can be obtained from the retailer in question and the coffee I have at home.

I wouldn't drink coffee from Starbucks even if it was completely free....because I couldn't drink it I really don't like it at all.
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Posted Sun Apr 13, 2014, 7:05am
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Well, the city I live in doesnt have freshly roasted, so the best I can compare Starbucks to is maybe Some grocery store coffee. I dont have a car and am new to online shopping/home roasting, so that may be why I dont think Starbucks is all that bad (I cant compare to the top notch stuff).
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Posted Sun Apr 13, 2014, 10:54am
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Manitobanerd Said:

Well, the city I live in doesnt have freshly roasted, so the best I can compare Starbucks to is maybe Some grocery store coffee. I dont have a car and am new to online shopping/home roasting, so that may be why I dont think Starbucks is all that bad (I cant compare to the top notch stuff).

Posted April 13, 2014 link

I'd rather drink instant coffee than Starbucks....I never thought I'd say it, but there it is....my god man, even if they installed Nespresso machines (or Tassimo or similar) for each of their "baristas", it would be a huge improvement in their coffee.
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