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Posted Wed Mar 5, 2014, 2:02pm
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You stirred up a hornets nest with your question.  As you have probably gathered, Kopi Luwak is not well thought of here.  It's like asking about cryogenically treated speaker cables on Audioholics.

There are a lot of really great coffees from all parts of the world.  Most of the coffees that get some buzz are overrated or at least overpriced.  If you want a really nice but slightly spendy coffee, I would suggest a nice Hawaiian Kona or a Puerto Rico Yauco Selecto.  Maybe a Yemen would also be a good choice.

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Posted Wed Mar 5, 2014, 6:46pm
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Coffee4US Said:

Yes, Len.  My friend loves drinking coffee and he started getting me into it as well.  I thought this would be a good forum for me to learn more about various kinds of coffee. Those sarcastic comments were uncalled for.  They could have simply explained the background without bashing me.  I appreciate those who had the courtesy to give me information without being sarcastic, but  I won't post anymore due to the other unnecessary comments.  Thanks.

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Well then, on behalf of all here I wish to extend an apology for ourselves pooh-poohing your genuine interest in the luwak coffee.

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Posted Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:06am
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jliedeka Said:

You stirred up a hornets nest with your question.  As you have probably gathered, Kopi Luwak is not well thought of here.  It's like asking about cryogenically treated speaker cables on Audioholics.


    Jim

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LOL, high end audio is one of my other passions, you comparison is perfectly valid!
My personal stance on cables (how did we get there?) is that the speaker side of things, esp for short runs, wire is wire and pretty much 14 gauge zip cord bought at the big box store is just as good as $1K a foot audio fool wire.

On things like interconnects, where the signal is MUCH lower and MUCH more easily damaged by interfearance then better cables will make a difference but even then you have the point of diminishing returns and .... my PERSONAL view is much more than $25 or so for a 1 m cable is not going to make a lot of difference. At least not to my 57 year old, abused by industry, shooting sports, military service ears!

If you REALLY want to waste money, lets spend big bucks on POWER cables, I mean really how much good it is going to do you to have an ULTRA premium power cord 6 feet long when you connect it to miles of EDISON non audio fool wire that has more dirty power on it than a hog in a mud wallow, I mean, really, what do you expect those 6 feet of wire to do? :P :P :P

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Posted Sat Mar 15, 2014, 3:28pm
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I know a guy who is usually pretty smart and skeptical.  He has speaker cables that look like fire hoses plus expensive interconnects and power cords.

I thought I was going overkill by using 10 gauge Belden speaker wire in my small home theater.  I get that plus interconnects from Blue Jean's.

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Posted Sat Mar 15, 2014, 7:09pm
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So, two moderators are hijacking this thread now to talk about audiophiles? Okeydoke, please take a look at comments 9 and 10 of the following:

Click Here (www.amazon.com)

Wanna trash talk expensive cables? Feh! I'll take you both on. [spits on hands and rubs them together]

Fool, ya fool!

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Posted Sun Mar 16, 2014, 6:17am
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Sorry. We can go back to talking about Kopi Luwak. I'll have to bow out because I have nothing new to say.

Jim

 
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Posted Sun Mar 16, 2014, 7:44am
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I owned a company called Pure Logic, which was essentially a "one man band" that was active during the nineties creating technical equipment largely based on chaos and complexity models.  Among other things it (I) made and designed high-end audio cable.  You'd be surprised at what does and doesn't matter, how human beings perceive sound and what makes some reproduction emotionally satisfying while other reproduction is annoying.  It's very complicated and not well understood -- not even by "experts."  

Kopi Luwak is an interesting thought, but lousy coffee.

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Posted Sun Mar 16, 2014, 9:06am
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I've been looking for a good set of computer speakers, Thanks for the link and super review barkingburro!
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Posted Sun Mar 16, 2014, 9:31am
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If you want to make a nice gift of coffees for an enthusiast, you might want to look online and select some choice offerings of Kona coffees sold directly by the growers on the Kona Coast hills in Hawaii. There are several growers who roast their farm produce and sell online; you will be getting high quality coffees from single farm origin and grown to strict quality standards.
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Posted Sun Mar 16, 2014, 10:23am
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Brenda, I can recommend Velton's Bonsai Blend for its complexity, chocolate flavor, and just great overall balance. It also will reveal a nice hint of orange flavor on a good day. The peak from roast date tends to be well past 5-6 days, so it is a good candidate for mail order. Or, if you prefer a (very) slightly darker roast, with more of a full-bodied flavor, try Velton's Twilight Blend. It tends to peak late after roast as well.

I've got some reviews for you as well, but they're on a competitor's site. Just google the following for a review on Bonsai Blend:

barkingburro coffee journey into darkness

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