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JerDGold
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Posted Mon Dec 16, 2013, 9:31am
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So I'm newer around here and newer to making anything other than Drip coffee.  I've been reading all the nasty things people say about Starbucks coffee and though..."How bad can it really be comparatively?"  I've been drinking it for years.  When I bought my Grinder and Chemex, a friend brought me whole bean fresh roasted from HIS favorite roaster as a gift.  Well needless to say it was delicious and I finished it all.  I'm not drinking a cup of what I had left from Starbucks (waste not want not) and it tastes like something is dying my mouth.  I feel like I'm drinking week ok burnt carbon and hot water.  It's turrible.  I will never buy or drink Starbucks again.  About to try out my most local roaster, Newport Coffee in Bannockburn, IL. (Near Chicago.)
http://www.mynewportcoffee.com/
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Posted Mon Dec 16, 2013, 9:38am
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Uh, ya, sounds normal.
I have found that when on the road and I just HAVE to have a cup, most often if fresh, 7-11 or AM-PM gas station coffee is much better than Starbucks. YMMV!

 
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Posted Mon Dec 16, 2013, 9:53am
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And what's YMMV? Your money...something something?
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Posted Mon Dec 16, 2013, 10:04am
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YMMV, most often seen on the dealer sticker of new cars. It stands for Your Millage May Vary.

Used to indicate that what is true for me, just may not be the same thing you find. We are all persons to ourselves and we each have our own personal views. So, just like what is seen on the estimated millage for cars on the sticker, your millage can and probably will be different  :D

 
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Posted Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:47am
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Obviously, we all have our own opinions, and most probably agree with the OP.  For whatever reason, I don't find Starbucks to be as terrible as others.  I really dislike Dunkin Donuts, Tim Hortons and McDonald's Coffees.  Don't get me wrong, i'm not endorsing Starbucks in any way.  I do think they get extra heat since they are the two ton gorilla of the industry (which they can probably handle).

And yes, YMMV!
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Posted Tue Dec 17, 2013, 6:26am
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They will be in business as long as most of what they sell is skim milk and sugar with flavoring.

I live in CBTL territory (too bad they didn't expand faster). They make an iced blended that most people agree is 1000x better than a frapp from *$. But those same people keep buying frapps because of convenience and habit.

 
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Posted Tue Dec 17, 2013, 9:02am
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mkeller234 Said:

Obviously, we all have our own opinions, and most probably agree with the OP.  For whatever reason, I don't find Starbucks to be as terrible as others.  I really dislike Dunkin Donuts, Tim Hortons and McDonald's Coffees.  Don't get me wrong, i'm not endorsing Starbucks in any way.  I do think they get extra heat since they are the two ton gorilla of the industry (which they can probably handle).

And yes, YMMV!

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I agree.  And for the life of me I wish that people would stop trash talking Starbucks.  I realize it has become a foot in the door to CG for newbies, however God it is getting sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo old.  Give Starbucks credit for opening many many many eyes to better mass produced retail coffee and espresso.

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Posted Tue Dec 17, 2013, 9:36am
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CoffeeRoastersClub Said:

I agree.  And for the life of me I wish that people would stop trash talking Starbucks.  I realize it has become a foot in the door to CG for newbies, however God it is getting sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo old.  Give Starbucks credit for opening many many many eyes to better mass produced retail coffee and espresso.

Len

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+1...
I think they cater to the really dark coffee lovers.  I know of a few people who don't like their coffee unless the beans are black and shiny.  I gotta give them credit for creating their empire around such darkly roasted coffee. I would never buy their pre bagged beans but every once in a while when I only have the option to buy Starbucks to get a coffee fix it isn't bad.
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Posted Tue Dec 17, 2013, 9:38am
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CoffeeRoastersClub Said:

I agree.  And for the life of me I wish that people would stop trash talking Starbucks.  I realize it has become a foot in the door to CG for newbies, however God it is getting sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo old.  Give Starbucks credit for opening many many many eyes to better mass produced retail coffee and espresso.

Len

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I can actually get behind that.  I mean, when I bought my grinder, the next stop I made before going home was starbucks.  If that isn't brand recognition, I don't know what is.  In my OP, I think I said "Terrible" tasting, which really isn't fair.  It just isn't nearly as good as what I bought fresh, and was more expensive.  I just think there are better options in MOST p;aces than starbucks, you just have to look.  The reason so many people bash Starbucks, IMO, is because they have garnered SO MUCH brand loyalty.

EG.  The Roaster I went to is literally a 3 minute drive from my house.  I had no idea they were there.  When I asked the guy how long they'd been open he said "Almost 20 years now...but since we're behind Dominicks, nobody sees us."
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Posted Tue Dec 17, 2013, 10:47am
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I'll take a DD iced coffee any day over Charbucks, every single time I have Charbucks if it's the only thing around it literally taste like a cigar in liquid form, last regular iced coffee I got even adding milk and splenda didn't really help. Was just up north and though there is an awesome little roaster and shop downtown wifey's fam still wanted to stop by *bucks instead for drinks before the drive. I got the Caramel Brulee Lattee.... awful doesn't even describe it lol. Gingerbread and Peppermint were bad too. That little roaster downtown can do similar drinks and blows them away lol.

*Bucks was a lot better when they were actually using La Marzocco machines and Mazzer grinders, and the people that worked there could actually be called baristas as they knew how to use and dial those machines and even steam milk correctly etc. When they swtiched the stores to the POS superauto setups it went waaaay downhill and now the "baristas" are push button teens.
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