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schiarelli
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Posted Fri Oct 11, 2013, 11:14am
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Ok guys, just to clarify, I went home last night and removed my shower head to clean everything up. The gasket is there. I played around with different grinder settings and tamping pressures and finally was able to pull successful shots.  But I am running at 12 psi, I think I need to adjust the OPV.
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Posted Fri Oct 11, 2013, 1:29pm
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The OPV is easy to reach with the top cover off.  10mm wrench. Try adjusting to 10-10.5 with a blind basket.  
.... but you may find the valve body will leak as the seal backs out of the body. I (and many others)
had to cut the spring to get it in the good range. I have read of others compressing the spring and someone bored the spring seat deeper (not the valve seat!)   .....hope you are handy with such tasks.
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Posted Fri Oct 11, 2013, 1:34pm
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Ill try this over the weekend, I am mechanically inclined but I dont know if I feel comfortable modifying the valve unless I have pictures or a video to follow.  Has anyone made a tutorial for this?
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Posted Fri Oct 11, 2013, 1:52pm
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You can adjust down until you reach the point it starts to drip, then tighten until it just stops (this leak is on the low pressure side of the valve, not the brew pressure side) This should at least get below 11 bar.
It's been so long since I did this (within the first week of getting the  machine) I don't recall specifics...

Very little shortening of the spring is required; Set the OPV to your brew pressure. Now measure how far you need to tighten the OPV to stop the dripping. ....now get out your caliper and measure.
Also, be sure you do the calibration with the boiler hot as the OPV is on the hot side (...yes, I know )

A quick search of 'Isomac Venus' here and on HB will turn up some pictures and details.

PLEASE unplug the machine anytime you are wrenching under the hood. this is so important for safety!
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Posted Fri Oct 11, 2013, 1:58pm
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*so confused*

I am so new to this world entirely, I still kinda dont fully understand the purpose of the OPV.  Need to do more research...
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Posted Fri Oct 11, 2013, 2:28pm
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Sorry there are so many machines that brew pressure is set too high. Year after year they continue to roll off the assembly line.

The Over Pressure Valve is really required only as a safety devise to release boiler expansion pressure should it climb to dangerous explosive levels. ( Many machines the OPV never opens during normal brewing.)
In this case brew pressure is determined only by the 'pressure/volume' curve of the pump; ristretto will be higher pressure, lungo will be lower.

Somewhere along the way, many years ago, coffeegeeks figured out you can also use the OPV to regulate proper brew pressure.

You can just leave it alone and try to brew at 12 bar.... I think that is a waste of time, taste and coffee myself.
(edit; actually, if your meter is at 12, brew pressure is closer to 11-11.5 bar; still too high.)
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Posted Fri Oct 11, 2013, 9:34pm
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need to clarify something.  when you say bar, do you mean psi? 1 bar = 14.7 psi
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Posted Fri Oct 11, 2013, 10:09pm
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The black outer numbers on your pressure gauge are Bar. The inner red numbers are psi.
Yes, 1 bar = 14.7 psi. I'm talking Bar, not psi...
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Posted Fri Oct 11, 2013, 11:12pm
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oh i see, my mistake.  wow thats some serious pressure...
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Posted Wed Nov 6, 2013, 2:11am
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Looks ancient, but stylish. Hopefully it'll work do! You have any guarantee?
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